Your Sports Credentials?

[kemajic]

1964 harlowton state b basketball championship. Moved to harlo in 1962 and played lots of football on the courthouse lawn. Always had a good football team for one of the smallest class b schools in the state.

Our football field was Coach Dunn's yard with his son Mike w/ my Vikings Uni of course!

Actually, in 1962 Harlo was the largest school in the Southern B. They had a real team bus, not a yellow school bus. They had been a football dynasty up to that point but we kicked their butt but good in '62 and '63 on our way to two perfect seasons. Columbus was one of the smallest Class B schools then and even slipped back to C for a few years in the 70's. My uncle owned and ran the Stockman's back then. I knew most of the '64 Harlo kids, several came to UM. Harlo is a real ghost town these days since the railroad closed down.

 

[Grizfan-24]

Our football field was Coach Dunn's yard with his son Mike w/ my Vikings Uni of course!

Actually, in 1962 Harlo was the largest school in the Southern B. They had a real team bus, not a yellow school bus. They had been a football dynasty up to that point but we kicked their butt but good in '62 and '63 on our way to two perfect seasons. Columbus was one of the smallest Class B schools then and even slipped back to C for a few years in the 70's. My uncle owned and ran the Stockman's back then. I knew most of the '64 Harlo kids, several came to UM. Harlo is a real ghost town these days since the railroad closed down.

I think you could say that of a lot of towns in eastern Montana. My father graduated from Big Sandy in the late 60's and it was a robust class B school with about 45-60 kids per class. Now, they'll have years with single digit kids in the classes. They've been C forever, but the town school have been in perpetual population decline for 40 years.

The rural flight is real and almost all of those schools in the Northern B from even 20 years ago when I started teaching and working up there are almost are all class C schools. Fort Benton, Choteau Simms, Cascade, Chinook, Shelby all in Class C now. Same is true of all those Western B schools that all saw the timber industry essentially shutter in the late 90's. Whole different landscape these days for B/C athletics

 

[24GRIZ]

Actually, in 1962 Harlo was the largest school in the Southern B. They had a real team bus, not a yellow school bus. They had been a football dynasty up to that point but we kicked their butt but good in '62 and '63 on our way to two perfect seasons. Columbus was one of the smallest Class B schools then and even slipped back to C for a few years in the 70's. My uncle owned and ran the Stockman's back then. I knew most of the '64 Harlo kids, several came to UM. Harlo is a real ghost town these days since the railroad closed down.

I think you could say that of a lot of towns in eastern Montana. My father graduated from Big Sandy in the late 60's and it was a robust class B school with about 45-60 kids per class. Now, they'll have years with single digit kids in the classes. They've been C forever, but the town school have been in perpetual population decline for 40 years.

The rural flight is real and almost all of those schools in the Northern B from even 20 years ago when I started teaching and working up there are almost are all class C schools. Fort Benton, Choteau Simms, Cascade, Chinook, Shelby all in Class C now. Same is true of all those Western B schools that all saw the timber industry essentially shutter in the late 90's. Whole different landscape these days for B/C athletics

I grew up in North-central MT. I was agreeing with your comments and then thought things were changing faster than I realized when I read Shelby being C. I looked it up and they are still B. For now anyway

 

[Oldschoolhornet]

The problem with Hoops story is that it's just a story and there is absolutely no proof. On an earlier thread he claimed his family "owns half of Bozeman" but now he grew up in a two-room shack on the reservation. Its all bovine defecation.

 

[uofmman1122]

The problem with Hoops story is that it's just a story and there is absolutely no proof. On an earlier thread he claimed his family "owns half of Bozeman" but now he grew up in a two-room shack on the reservation. Its all bovine defecation.

You can literally just google him and see that it checks out.

 

[BDizzle]

The problem with Hoops story is that it's just a story and there is absolutely no proof. On an earlier thread he claimed his family "owns half of Bozeman" but now he grew up in a two-room shack on the reservation. Its all bovine defecation.

Here’s a good article to read. https://missoulacurrent.com/law-tech-deal/

 

[poorgriz]

Actually, in 1962 Harlo was the largest school in the Southern B. They had a real team bus, not a yellow school bus. They had been a football dynasty up to that point but we kicked their butt but good in '62 and '63 on our way to two perfect seasons. Columbus was one of the smallest Class B schools then and even slipped back to C for a few years in the 70's. My uncle owned and ran the Stockman's back then. I knew most of the '64 Harlo kids, several came to UM. Harlo is a real ghost town these days since the railroad closed down.

I think you could say that of a lot of towns in eastern Montana. My father graduated from Big Sandy in the late 60's and it was a robust class B school with about 45-60 kids per class. Now, they'll have years with single digit kids in the classes. They've been C forever, but the town school have been in perpetual population decline for 40 years.

The rural flight is real and almost all of those schools in the Northern B from even 20 years ago when I started teaching and working up there are almost are all class C schools. Fort Benton, Choteau Simms, Cascade, Chinook, Shelby all in Class C now. Same is true of all those Western B schools that all saw the timber industry essentially shutter in the late 90's. Whole different landscape these days for B/C athletics

Actually Big Sandy isn't doing too bad for whatever reason. I think they have close to 70 students today.

 

[alabamagrizzly]

The problem with Hoops story is that it's just a story and there is absolutely no proof. On an earlier thread he claimed his family "owns half of Bozeman" but now he grew up in a two-room shack on the reservation. Its all bovine defecation.

You can literally just google him and see that it checks out.

Oldschool might not know how to google.

 

[kemajic]

The problem with Hoops story is that it's just a story and there is absolutely no proof. On an earlier thread he claimed his family "owns half of Bozeman" but now he grew up in a two-room shack on the reservation. Its all bovine defecation.

Here’s a good article to read. https://missoulacurrent.com/law-tech-deal/

And on eGriz we get him pro bono....

 

[BDizzle]

Here’s a good article to read. https://missoulacurrent.com/law-tech-deal/

And on eGriz we get him pro bono....

Oh we definitely pay for it. Just not monetarily.

 

[RABIDAWG]

Hoops...it's great that you had the grades to get into an Ivy League school but the truth is you played for a non-scholarship team in a non-scholarship conference because no legitimate football program would give you an athletic scholarship. I'm sure you're going to respond by telling everyone that you turned down an offer form Bear Bryant but even the few guys on this site who support you because they feel sorry for you aren't going to buy it.

Actually, I turned down several scholarship offers from the Big Sky, because I wanted to play D-1 (not small college) and go to the Ivies. I could have gone to Wash. St. with coach Jim Sweeney, and he took 2 players from our team, both of whom played 4 years and started. Jim Sweeney Jr was our high school qb.

One of my teams ended up ranked no. 14 in the nation, ahead of schools like Alabama, USC, Oklahoma, and Penn St. https://collegepollarchive.com/football/ap/seasons.cfm?seasonid=1970. We won the Lambert Trophy as the best team in the East over Penn St. Penn St's running backs that year were Franco Harris and Lydell Mitchell. I played against the runner-up to the Heisman 3 years, and will be having dinner with him in NYC next week.

I'm glad I went to an Ivy. I got a great education and met a lot of great people. It enabled me to do a lot of fun things in life. Okay, now I'm going to be extra obnoxious. For example, my family went to Germany for 2 weeks in December. To the Fiesta Bowl and National Championship game. I'm going to the Ivy football dinner next week in NYC. Not sure on Super Bowl yet. Class mini-reunion in Naples, Florida in February. Indian Wells Tennis. The 2023 Rugby World Cup in France for 3 weeks. Looking at a trip to Tahiti. As I've said before, I think I've done pretty good for a kid who grew up in his early years in a two-room shack on a reservation, with no electricity running water or indoor plumbing.

Thanks for giving me the opportunity to defend myself again. Ha.

Your wife must be a heck of a travel agent!

 

[horribilisfan8184]

Actually, in 1962 Harlo was the largest school in the Southern B. They had a real team bus, not a yellow school bus. They had been a football dynasty up to that point but we kicked their butt but good in '62 and '63 on our way to two perfect seasons. Columbus was one of the smallest Class B schools then and even slipped back to C for a few years in the 70's. My uncle owned and ran the Stockman's back then. I knew most of the '64 Harlo kids, several came to UM. Harlo is a real ghost town these days since the railroad closed down.

I think you could say that of a lot of towns in eastern Montana. My father graduated from Big Sandy in the late 60's and it was a robust class B school with about 45-60 kids per class. Now, they'll have years with single digit kids in the classes. They've been C forever, but the town school have been in perpetual population decline for 40 years.

The rural flight is real and almost all of those schools in the Northern B from even 20 years ago when I started teaching and working up there are almost are all class C schools. Fort Benton, Choteau Simms, Cascade, Chinook, Shelby all in Class C now. Same is true of all those Western B schools that all saw the timber industry essentially shutter in the late 90's. Whole different landscape these days for B/C athletics

That was true until the covid invasion. Try to find a house for rent or sale in some of those small towns now.

 

[mthoopsfan]

Actually, I turned down several scholarship offers from the Big Sky, because I wanted to play D-1 (not small college) and go to the Ivies. I could have gone to Wash. St. with coach Jim Sweeney, and he took 2 players from our team, both of whom played 4 years and started. Jim Sweeney Jr was our high school qb.

One of my teams ended up ranked no. 14 in the nation, ahead of schools like Alabama, USC, Oklahoma, and Penn St. https://collegepollarchive.com/football/ap/seasons.cfm?seasonid=1970. We won the Lambert Trophy as the best team in the East over Penn St. Penn St's running backs that year were Franco Harris and Lydell Mitchell. I played against the runner-up to the Heisman 3 years, and will be having dinner with him in NYC next week.

I'm glad I went to an Ivy. I got a great education and met a lot of great people. It enabled me to do a lot of fun things in life. Okay, now I'm going to be extra obnoxious. For example, my family went to Germany for 2 weeks in December. To the Fiesta Bowl and National Championship game. I'm going to the Ivy football dinner next week in NYC. Not sure on Super Bowl yet. Class mini-reunion in Naples, Florida in February. Indian Wells Tennis. The 2023 Rugby World Cup in France for 3 weeks. Looking at a trip to Tahiti. As I've said before, I think I've done pretty good for a kid who grew up in his early years in a two-room shack on a reservation, with no electricity running water or indoor plumbing.

Thanks for giving me the opportunity to defend myself again. Ha.

Your wife must be a heck of a travel agent!

I plan the trips. Sometimes the family scouts for airbnb's. My time is devoted to trip planning, looking for financing for the trips, and egriz. A little hanging at the lake with the likes of you.

 

[IdaGriz01]

Well, I won’t deny being quite impressed – and slightly intimidated – by the credentials posted by some of you on this board. So, I hesitated to chime in … but decided to anyway.

By a “generally accepted” definition, I “never play the game.” However, like most of my generation. I did play all the “normal” sports … just not at the higher high school or collegiate level. No idea about where my skill level might have been since I totally worked my way through high school and college, and had no transportation beyond a bicycle (or shoe leather) until I was through junior college. Hard to attend practice (or other extracurricular activities, for that matter) when you have to depend upon hitch-hiking home. Even so, I was in the running for a place on my HS cross-country team, and the high jump. (Who remembers landing in a sawdust pot? Pity the poor pole-vaulters.)

Still, as I’ve said before on other threads, “it ain’t rocket science.” Sure, you won’t grasped clever moves by a well-trained specialist. I once wrestled a member of our HS team … I even had a small weight advantage. Back then – being a farm boy – I held my own for awhile with sheer strength and determination. But after he figured out all I didn’t know … it was soon over. Anyway, understanding the basic X’s and O’s of a physical sport is just a matter of reading, and paying attention to those who do know the more subtle points of a given sport. I will, however, freely concede, even emphasize, that actually playing the game prepares you to understand the intangible factors that make a team sport more than just the X’s and O’s.

Just for ego purposes, I‘ll share a few moments … two great, two not so much. I recall two (of a limited number) times when I was truly “in the zone.” One was at a district baseball tournament (we’d call it junior high now). In our games, I went 8 for 10, with 2 home runs, and un-recalled number of walks. Should have been three HRs, but on my first at-bat – after it happened – they said bouncing over the fence in right field was a ground-rule double. After that, I batted right handed. (I’m naturally left-handed and usually hit better for power from that side, but better for average the other way around.) The other was a district basketball tournament where I had a double-double ... 14 points (a pretty big deal back then), and 11 rebounds, mostly against a guy who stood a head taller then me. He knew nothing about technique (I didn’t know much … but more than him ) and finally fouled out after knocking me on my butt for the last time.
The not go good: First, a scar (vestige now) over my left eye. Touch Football (intramural), where I dodged around a blocker just as the RB ducked the same way … and nailed me with his forehead. First time I learned how much a head cut could bleed. Soaked a towel in about 2 seconds and took like 5-10 stitches (back then). Style points: The guy who smacked me was the skat-back on our varsity football team. FYI: Our team had two power backs and this guy. We also had a black QB. Big deal? Yep. This was northern California (Marysville) in 1960-61, and – to my knowledge – he was the only one, other than at the “geographically” [Ha!] segregated high schools. The team went undefeated and won the conference that year.
Second not so good: Wonkie left ankle. Went up for a spike in an intramural volleyball game … yes, I made a legal point. But my opponent’s foot strayed under me and I came down on the edge. That ankle turned more strange colors than you can name, took weeks to heal, and has never been the same since.

 

[kemajic]

Second not so good: Wonkie left ankle. Went up for a spike in an intramural volleyball game … yes, I made a legal point. But my opponent’s foot strayed under me and I came down on the edge. That ankle turned more strange colors than you can name, took weeks to heal, and has never been the same since.

High ankle sprain, likely. Nasty sports injury. I had one in spring ball and Naseby didn't have enough tape to stabilize it. Hemorrhaging clear up to the buttock. No rest in spring ball, so I got knocked around quite a bit for the rest of the spring. Took YEARS to heal and has never been the same since. So don't expect Mahomes to be at his best.

 

[Gaeilge1]

When I was young, I was pretty fast. Most likely from running from the police!

 

[PeauxRouge]

These are great!

I was a marginal football player, a poor basketball player, and a pretty good distance runner that was always in the shadow of Doug Brown's records, whom I'm assuming a handful of you old turds actually went to school with.

 

[kemajic]

These are great!

I was a marginal football player, a poor basketball player, and a pretty good distance runner that was always in the shadow of Doug Brown's records, whom I'm assuming a handful of you old turds actually went to school with.

Saw the back side of Brown, Jovanovich and Hyvonen a lot in those years running the 880. Randy ran 1:52 on the cinder track at Dornblaser before going on to faster times at Stanford. Likely still the state record since it isn't run anymore.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Hoops...it's great that you had the grades to get into an Ivy League school but the truth is you played for a non-scholarship team in a non-scholarship conference because no legitimate football program would give you an athletic scholarship. I'm sure you're going to respond by telling everyone that you turned down an offer form Bear Bryant but even the few guys on this site who support you because they feel sorry for you aren't going to buy it.

Actually, I turned down several scholarship offers from the Big Sky, because I wanted to play D-1 (not small college) and go to the Ivies. I could have gone to Wash. St. with coach Jim Sweeney, and he took 2 players from our team, both of whom played 4 years and started. Jim Sweeney Jr was our high school qb.

One of my teams ended up ranked no. 14 in the nation, ahead of schools like Alabama, USC, Oklahoma, and Penn St. https://collegepollarchive.com/football/ap/seasons.cfm?seasonid=1970. We won the Lambert Trophy as the best team in the East over Penn St. Penn St's running backs that year were Franco Harris and Lydell Mitchell. I played against the runner-up to the Heisman 3 years, and will be having dinner with him in NYC next week.

I'm glad I went to an Ivy. I got a great education and met a lot of great people. It enabled me to do a lot of fun things in life. Okay, now I'm going to be extra obnoxious. For example, my family went to Germany for 2 weeks in December. To the Fiesta Bowl and National Championship game. I'm going to the Ivy football dinner next week in NYC. Not sure on Super Bowl yet. Class mini-reunion in Naples, Florida in February. Indian Wells Tennis. The 2023 Rugby World Cup in France for 3 weeks. Looking at a trip to Tahiti. As I've said before, I think I've done pretty good for a kid who grew up in his early years in a two-room shack on a reservation, with no electricity running water or indoor plumbing.

Thanks for giving me the opportunity to defend myself again. Ha.

:lol: :lol:

As my boss would say, “that’s what you call returning it with some topspin.” :thumb: :thumb:

 

[AZGrizFan]

My athletic career was brief, but flashed like a meteorite across the sky.

Boxed for two years. At age 11, won the state AAU Boxing title, defeating someone who many on here probably know for the title—Brad Porch. The pinnacle of my athletic career—peaked at 11!

Played a LOT of baseball. At age 12, went undefeated in little league (Mt. Sentinel), then went to the state tourney and got blasted by one of the Great Falls teams who had 5-6 guys who looked like they were 20. Played Babe Ruth League baseball until I was 15, and was a pretty good 2nd/3rd baseman until kids started throwing the curveball. :|. Went from batting about .400 to getting 3 hits TOTAL in my last year. Thus endeth my baseball career. Still blame Randy Tangmo for that.

Football consisted of one year of Little Grizzly (6th grade) and one year of HS ball (Frosh, Sentinel HS Purple squad), back in the day when NO freshmen could be on varsity. While I’m a large human NOW, I was tiny back then (5’6”, 115 as a freshman), so it was highly likely I’d get snapped in half if I continued. I was the 3rd string FB and the 3rd string DE. As I explained to PR once, I backed up the backups. Still remember a tackling drill in practice where everyone above me was “shuffling back and forth” because nobody wanted to go up against Tom Mahlum in the other line. Well, I drew the short straw…he was probably 6’, 185 at that point. I ended up not being able to feel the right side of my body for about 10 minutes. :lol: Another time against Kalispell’s frosh squad got knocked colder than a clam when they ran a sweep around my end and the TE (we were up 38-0 but they still had their starters in) came up with both hands under my chinstrap. Woke up to a brawl going on on the field. :lol: Never did thank Tom Oie for having my back there. :thumb: Never played another down of competitive football after that.

Finally grew after HS and played some intramural basketball in college, where my game resembled Mac Anderson’s. Give the coach a good 10 minutes in the paint, use up my 5 fouls, and sit the rest of the game. My big claim to fame was getting into a fist fight with the starting DE for the Vandulls on the basketball court. I believe he ultimately ended up in jail…real swell guy.

Now my athletic career consists of golf. Lots of shitty golf.