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Montana State Bobcats Scouting Report

BWahlberg

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It’s GRIZ/cat week, there’s a lot riding on this game for both teams. As always lets break this down:

Record 9 – 1

10-27 loss to Utah: Down 24-0 and looking like they were going to get rolled the cats rebounded with a late 2nd qtr TD, and matching Utah in the 2nd half by adding 3 points and allowing 3 points. MSU tossed two picks and didn’t force any against Utah. The Utes had nearly 200 rushing yards but only 100 passing yards in the game.

38-14 win vs UC Davis: MSU fell down 7-0 but then caught up and was able to hold a comfy 2 to 3 score lead that they kept widening as the game went on. They matched a 3rd qtr Davis TD to open up the game 35-14 and put it out of reach. MSU practically defined a balanced attack, 250 rushing and 257 passing. UCD was shut down on the ground, just 81 rushing yards.

43-7 win vs Minot State: The cats blew it wide open in the 2nd qtr scoring 28 points. Minot had just 176 total yards and lost 3 turnovers to 0 MSU turnovers. Meanwhile the cats had another balanced day with over 500 yards combined and an efficient rushing and passing attack.

36-21 win vs EWU: This was a closer game until later when the cats scored a late TD to open it up. At the half MSU was up 20-14. MSU made it a 2 score game adding two more fieldgoals in the 3rd. At the start of the 4th qtr EWU got back within striking distance scoring a TD and making it 26-21. EWU stopped MSU on the next possession but couldn’t get much going themselves. MSU answered with a TD, force a short EWU drive, and then tacked on another fieldgoal to make it 36-21. EWU failed on a 4th down conversion in MSU territory with just a few minutes left in the game and all hopes of a miracle comeback died. MSU ran for 255 with Kirk and McGhee splitting most of those yards, also McGhee added 161 passing yards in the game. EWU did have some passing success, picking up 263 yards and running for another 103. One big thing that stood out to me was MSU went 11 of 18 on 3rd down while EWU was just 3 for 10.

31-21 win vs Sac: It was a close first half but in the 3rd MSU opened it up, Sac did add a TD in the 4th to make it 31-21 and got the ball back quickly after a short MSU drive and a crappy punt. Sac marched right down to the MSU 2 yard line but lost a fumble and that ended it. Sac did stop MSU’s next drive but they were flagged for roughing the punter, giving the cats a first down and that ended the game for good. Sac ran for 106, passed for 220 put allowed 207 rushing and 246 passing, Sac also had that one costly fumble plus an interception and a missed 22 yard fieldgoal. Kirk had another big game as did Akpla who had 174 of McGhees 246 passing yards and 2 TDs.

38-36 win vs PSU: MSU fell behind PSU quickly after two blocked punts set up 10 easy PSU points but some horrid PSU pass defense set up 3 easy scoring passes and the cats held a 23-13 lead at the half. PSU answered with a questionable TD run where the running back clearly stepped out of bounds but wasn’t called out and went in for a TD, the 2 point conversion failed and MSU held a 23-19 lead. The Cats then rattled off 14 points and looked like they were rolling. In the 4th PSU kicked a fieldgoal, MSU then answered with one of their own. Down 38-22 PSU rallied, they scored a TD and 2 point conversion with 3:18 left, PSU then attempted what the box score reads as a deep on-sides kick (PSU recovered at the MSU 17), a few plays later Portland scored again but this time their two point conversion was stopped. MSU got the ball back and Cody Kirk pounded his way to a few first downs and let the team run out the clock. PSU ran for 215 in the game and passed for 127 while MSU put up 255 in the air and 173 rushing. PSU was just 3 of 12 on third down.

41-24 win vs NAU: MSU grabbed a decent lead in the 1st half and held onto it through the 2nd half. MSU’s offense shredded NAU’s defense with almost 300 rushing yards and 250 passing yards. Meanwhile NAU’s rushing game was shut down only picking up 49 total yards. MSU also left 10 points off the board, missing a fieldgoal and getting stuffed on the NAU 4 yard line on 4th down.

31-21 win vs UNC: MSU avoided what would’ve been a catastrophic let down, while they led the whole game UNC kept it close until a Bleskin TD halfway through the 4th qtr to open up a 10 point lead. Each team missed a fieldgoal after that. MSU was really sloppy in this game, they missed a fieldgoal, threw two picks, and lost a fumble going into the UNC endzone. MSU rolled up another near 500 yards and kept UNC’s rushing game under 100 yards but did allow almost 260 passing. MSU and their poor play kept UNC in this game throughout. MSU was -2 in turnovers, normally going negative in turnovers on the road and taking at least 10 points off the board will cost a team the win, it didn’t for MSU in this one.

54-13 win vs ISU: In Kramer’s return The Bengals were stomped in Bozo. MSU ran for 415 yards in the game, Kirk had 185 of it, Robinson about 150. ISU had 260 passing and basically rushed for nothing, but that was to be expected. MSU grabbed 4 ints off the Bengals.

44-24 win vs Weber: The first half made it look like it was going to be quite the battle, it was 24-20 Weber at the half. McGhee tossed two picks and lost two fumbles between the 1st and 2nd qtr. In the 2nd MSU settled down, they forced two Weber fumbles and the Wildcats missed a fieldgoal. Meanwhile MSU scored 24 unanswered points. McGhee rebounded, throwing for 310 while Kirk had a bit of a quiet day with just 74 yards. Weebs ran for 186 and passed for 143, they also missed 3 fieldgoals in the game.

Players to watch:
#25 Cody Kirk, RB: A product grown right in the Grizzly back yard, Kirk is from Frenchtown and, in my opinion, is the best running back in the Big Sky. Kirk has 1188 yards this year (2nd in the conference) and 14 rushing TDs (1st in the conference). He’s also a receiving threat with 214 receiving yards putting him 4th on the cats in terms of receptions and receiving yards. He’s a bruiser at 5-10, 215 pounds.

#9 Denarius McGhee, QB: McGhee’s role has scaled back with the emergence of a solid running game but he’s still a dangerous QB. McGhee’s averaging about 220 passing yards per game and has 333 rushing yards this season (gross – his net yards are 215 putting him at 22 ypg average). McGhee’s had fumble issues of late and has shown some regression in the passing game, tossing 10 picks this year where I think he only had 3 or 4 last year.

#1 Elvis Akpla, WR: Akpla is a 6-1, 190 senior WR who leads the team with 827 yards and 10 TDs. His 10 TDs ties him for 2nd in the conference. Elvis has some punt return yards but isn’t their primary returner. He’ll presumably draw Tru in most coverage situations.

#86 Tanner Bleskin, WR: Tanner scored the opening TD in the 2010 Brawl, he’s a taller WR at 6-3 and has moved up to be the #2 receiver on the team this year. He’s got 356 yards and 3 TDs this season.

#7 Tray Robinson, RB: Another bruiser of a running back, Robinson has 571 yards and 5 TDs this season, he’s got a few receptions, 153 total yards and 1 TD this year.

#4 John Ellis, WR: A shorter guy at 5-10, Ellis is one of MSU’s emerging guys at WR. He’s got 275 yards and 1 TD so far this year. Ellis has a few kick returns as well this season but isn’t the main returner, although he does hold the team’s longest kick return in 56 yards.

#14 Everett Gilbert, WR/RB: Gilbert is MSU’s “utility man”, he’s got 134 receiving yards and 1 receiving TD, he’s also got 164 rushing yards and 2 rushing TDs. He’s additionally the main kick returner averaging 24.7 yards per return which ties him for 3rd best in the Big Sky.

#15 Jason Cunningham, K: Cunningham has a huge leg, he’s hit two 55 yard fieldgoals this year, he leads the Big Sky in total scoring and is tied with Brody McKnight for 2nd in the league with made fieldgoals.

#23 Jody Owens, LB: The will linebacker for the cats, Owens has a team leading 74 tackles, 9.5 TFL, 5 sacks, 1 INT and 1 fumble recovery.

#42 Clay Bignell, LB: The starting middle linebacker for the team Clay is a guy we’ve seen for years. He’s 6-2, 240 and is 2nd on the team in tackles with 56, he’s also got 1 INT and 1 fumble recovery too.

#41 Brad Daly, DE: Leading the Cats with 10 sacks, he’s 6-1, 232. Daly has 27 tackles, 6 QB hits, and 1 forced fumble. If recall what I read about Daly, he actually stepped up to fill a spot left by injury and has flourished at it.

#49 Caleb Schreibeis, DE: Opposite of Daly, Caleb has 52 tackles, 9 TFL, and 6 sacks this year.

#13 Darius Jones, CB: Jones has a ton of tackles for a starting corner with 46, he also leads the team with 7 pass breakups. Presumably he’ll be looking to cover Sambrano.

#96 Zach Minter, DT: A 285 pound interior Dlineman, Minter has 29 tackles, 10 TFL, and 7 sacks. He’s also forced 2 fumbles. Minter is probably one of the best interior defensive linemen in the Big Sky.

#37 Deonte Flowers, S: Just 23 tackles as a safety and only 1 pick but also has 7 pass breakups.

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General Stats:

- MSU’s scoring is consistent in the 1st, 3rd, and 4th quarter but in the 2nd they tend to explode on offense. MSU had scored more points in the 2nd qtr this season than they have in all of their 3rd and 4th quarters combined.

- On the other side of the ball MSU’s defense seems to allow more points early on but then clamps down in the 3rd and 4th.

- MSU’s offense is the highest scoring in the league, averaging 36.6 points per game. At home the MSU offense is even better, averaging an eye-popping 41.4 points per game at home.

- MSU’s defense is statistically the best in scoring and yards allowed. In terms of scoring their defense allows just 20.8 points per game (UM is right behind at 21.4 points per game). At home MSU’s defense is allowing just 15.8.

- Only PSU has run for more yards than the Bobcats this season. The cats average 237.1 rushing yards per game and pick up a good majority of their first downs on the ground.

- MSU’s defense has not shown a lot of weakness, they allow 114 rushing yards per game and 192 passing yards per game.

- On the season MSU is +2 in turnover margin

- MSU’s punt coverage team allows 8.4 yards per punt return and has the 2nd lowest punting average in the Big Sky.

- MSU’s defense has the most sacks in the Big Sky with 38, second best is UM with 28.

- MSU converts 3rd downs at almost a 50% ratio

- MSU is 4th worst in the Big Sky in penalty yards with nearly 70 per game.

- MSU’s red zone offense is the best in the Big Sky, scoring 89% of the time, UM is very close to them, scoring 85% of the time. On the other side though UM’s defense only allows RZ scores 69% of the time while MSU’s defense allows RZ TDs 81% of the time.

- 5 of MSU’s 15 turnovers have happened in the last two games, and 9 of their 15 turnovers in the last 4 games. MSU appears to be headed into this game with an escalating turnover issue.

- MSU is 9-0 when they score over 30 points… I mean their only loss they scored 10 points but allowed 27 so I suppose you could say with exception to the PSU game if MSU scores over 28 points they’re pretty much unbeatable.

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Keys for a Grizzly win:

- Montana State at home is a scoring machine, the Griz defense has to show up in a huge way and keep that offense under wraps. The one thing that I notice though is while MSU is rolling teams at home the teams they’ve played have been 3-7 UCD, Minot State, 4-6 Sac, 4-6 NAU, and 2-8 ISU. Looking at the Utah loss the Utes were able to shut Kirk down to less than 50 rushing yards and thus forced McGhee to shoulder the load who tossed two picks. I don’t think UM can simply “stop” Kirk but hopefully they can contain him and not allow 150+ rushing yards.

- Put the game in McGhee’s hands, literally. McGhee’s had some continued fumble issues and has been turnover prone as it’s been getting colder out. Additionally if the cats have to go away from ground and pound with Kirk I like the Griz secondary against the MSU WRs. Hopefully some heavy pressure can keep McGhee flat on the ground and a little rattled. MSU’s Oline doesn’t give up a lot of sacks and McGhee is slippery but some QB hits would go a long way.

- WIN the turnover battle. The Griz haven’t lost a game this year when they win the turnover battle or if it’s even. The two losses were the only game where the Griz lost the turnover battle. In the most simple terms based upon this season, WIN the turnover battle, WIN the game.

- Keep the cats under 20 points. The cats D is stout but seems to give up some points and of late their turnovers have put them in short-field situations. In their last 5 games their D has allowed 24, 13, 21, 24, and then 36. It’s a tall order and I’m not sure if it’s possible, but if the Griz can keep the cats under 20 their potential to win this game will go way up.

- Keep it close by halftime. As I mentioned, the cats tend to just go nuts in the 2nd qtr, if the Griz can keep it close (within 10 points down, tied, or anywhere in the positive) they’ll be in a good position to hang and get back into the game in the 2nd half or put it away. If it’s 28-10 cats at the half… good luck, because that’s how the cats play, get the lead and then grind the game out.

- Cover kickoffs well, MSU’s the 2nd best kick return team in the Big Sky. Giving them better field position to start will only help them get a W.

- Give them some easy 1st downs but don’t get burned deep. The Griz RZ defense is the best in the Big Sky, if it means giving up some movement between the 20s but forcing fieldgoal attempts and keeping MSU out of the endzone will help. Cunningham is a real good kicker but is nowhere near perfect, if the Griz can keep MSU going to him rather than going into the endzone they can either stay in the game or dash ahead by getting some TDs of their own.

- DOLA. Can’t say it enough, win in the trenches and don’t let Minter and Daly harass JJ… that’ll be huge. Open those lanes for Jordan, Petey, Beau…. and Dan. This is the last game for Oppie, Burton, and Sabin, last chance to punch these cats in the mouth and knock them flat on their butts.

- Rotate Tully/Hermanson a lot and observe who is better in run support and coverage. Hermey has really stepped up his game, he was 2nd in tackles against NAU and is tied for the most ints on the team. MSU is going to test our safeties BIG TIME, they’ll pull what PSU, NAU, Sac, and others did to move the ball on the Griz and try that out as well.

- If the DTs can plug up the middle and not give Kirk big lanes to run through it’ll make the day a lot easier on our ‘backers.

Quite honestly, if the Griz didn’t have that 1st half against Weber that they did… I might not be picking them to win. If we get THAT team, they’ll go to MSU and win this one, probably by double digits. Our defense is mean and hits hard, it’s rested, deep, and healthy. On offense a rested and ready JJ will give the cats something they will not have seen much (if at all) on tape, a QB that’s a threat to run it as well. Canada running wild, Nguyen busting free on screen passes, Sambrano catching/running/returning, and McSurdy knocking the teeth out of guys… I’m feeling it, and I feel confident in a GRIZ win. I’ll say 24-22, coming down to a Brody McKnight winning fieldgoal. Good luck GRIZ, your goal of a league title, beating the cats, and landing a cozy playoff spot are all riding on this game.


The Cats are rightfully favored, being at home, having the better record, having a fairly flawless season so far, I get it. This team is as talented as the Griz have faced, it's got playmakers all over the field and makes up the 2nd best team the Griz have matched up against all season. It's going to take the very best effort from all sides of the ball to win this. A few slip ups will cost the Griz, the margin for error is gone.

Play your best football in November. The eyes of Griz nation are watching, and we're cheering for you all. GO GRIZ
 
ilovethecats said:
jesus. not sure how you have time for a day job BW....but that is some quality work right there. :thumb:

It's what I do*





*for fun

This was a heck of a report to write. The cats are a darn tough team to find weakness in and quite frankly in prior "keys to win" it was based upon obvious gaps in game play, coverage, stats, etc. Here... there's not much. Most of these "keys" are just hopes that it's done but there's little historical evidence that suggests it'll be possible or easy.

Should be a heck of a game, and I'm thinking a lower scoring one too.
 
Thanks for another great report! I always look forward to you're Scouting Reports.........
Go Griz!!
 
I found a real laugher in your analysis. You think the Griz O-line is better than the Cats? m If so, you're out to lunch. Please explain all of the zero/negative yardage on running plays we have this season, compared to the Cats running game, which averages about 100 yards more per game than us. You are just like so many others who think that "big" means "good". The Cats O-line is smaller, but much quicker and faster, allowing them to run a much greater variety of running plays other than the zone-blocking our linemen have to run all of the time, because they are too slow to pull and trap-block.
 
Growler1 said:
I found a real laugher in your analysis. You think the Griz O-line is better than the Cats? m If so, you're out to lunch. Please explain all of the zero/negative yardage on running plays we have this season, compared to the Cats running game, which averages about 100 yards more per game than us. You are just like so many others who think that "big" means "good". The Cats O-line is smaller, but much quicker and faster, allowing them to run a much greater variety of running plays other than the zone-blocking our linemen have to run all of the time, because they are too slow to pull and trap-block.

griz haven't allowed a sack. that is just crazy. i think both lines are very good. griz fans like theirs better....cat fans like theirs better. both great units. but not allowing even a SINGLE sack at this point in the season is very respectful.

and classy if we're keeping score. :party:
 
ilovethecats said:
Growler1 said:
I found a real laugher in your analysis. You think the Griz O-line is better than the Cats? m If so, you're out to lunch. Please explain all of the zero/negative yardage on running plays we have this season, compared to the Cats running game, which averages about 100 yards more per game than us. You are just like so many others who think that "big" means "good". The Cats O-line is smaller, but much quicker and faster, allowing them to run a much greater variety of running plays other than the zone-blocking our linemen have to run all of the time, because they are too slow to pull and trap-block.

griz haven't allowed a sack. that is just crazy. i think both lines are very good. griz fans like theirs better....cat fans like theirs better. both great units. but not allowing even a SINGLE sack at this point in the season is very respectful.

and classy if we're keeping score. :party:

Did you ever try to get past a 6'8", 320 lb. guy?
 
ilovethecats said:
Growler1 said:
I found a real laugher in your analysis. You think the Griz O-line is better than the Cats? m If so, you're out to lunch. Please explain all of the zero/negative yardage on running plays we have this season, compared to the Cats running game, which averages about 100 yards more per game than us. You are just like so many others who think that "big" means "good". The Cats O-line is smaller, but much quicker and faster, allowing them to run a much greater variety of running plays other than the zone-blocking our linemen have to run all of the time, because they are too slow to pull and trap-block.

griz haven't allowed a sack. that is just crazy. i think both lines are very good. griz fans like theirs better....cat fans like theirs better. both great units. but not allowing even a SINGLE sack at this point in the season is very respectful.

and classy if we're keeping score. :party:

I guess I don't follow you, griz have allowed 8 sacks, 7 in conf
 
Excellent writeup, and perhaps our local Cat fans can help me out here, but I believe that Deonte Flowers is a CB, not a S. Obviously it's not a big deal, just wanted to point that out haha.
 
PTGrizzly said:
Excellent writeup, and perhaps our local Cat fans can help me out here, but I believe that Deonte Flowers is a CB, not a S. Obviously it's not a big deal, just wanted to point that out haha.


we trust you, you are the biggest scat fan on this board...if anybody knows, it's you.
 
I think the griz will have to score 28+ to have a shot in this game. Cats' offense is a different critter at home, i.e. good. . . scary good. . . :thumb:
 
After we win in BozAngles this saturday, do any of you expect the stench of cat pissing posters to remain?

Joyous and with great pleasure, I feel a win coming on!
 
Umista said:
After we win in BozAngles this saturday, do any of you expect the stench of cat pissing posters to remain?

Joyous and with great pleasure, I feel a win coming on!

dumstia, which 6 cali kids got kicked off the fizz team?


your still not answering :roll:
 
Hey Brint, you even spelled "league" right this time! Thanks. And thanks for a season-long spot on analysis of each game. We all appreciate your inspiration.

GRIZ will put some serious hurt on the Cats this Saturday. We can all smell the cat piss on the field.
 
Cats2506 said:
ilovethecats said:
Growler1 said:
I found a real laugher in your analysis. You think the Griz O-line is better than the Cats? m If so, you're out to lunch. Please explain all of the zero/negative yardage on running plays we have this season, compared to the Cats running game, which averages about 100 yards more per game than us. You are just like so many others who think that "big" means "good". The Cats O-line is smaller, but much quicker and faster, allowing them to run a much greater variety of running plays other than the zone-blocking our linemen have to run all of the time, because they are too slow to pull and trap-block.

griz haven't allowed a sack. that is just crazy. i think both lines are very good. griz fans like theirs better....cat fans like theirs better. both great units. but not allowing even a SINGLE sack at this point in the season is very respectful.

and classy if we're keeping score. :party:

I guess I don't follow you, griz have allowed 8 sacks, 7 in conf

i thought i heard that their starters have yet to let anyone get to the qb. maybe i dreamt it... :oops:
 
ilovethecats said:
Cats2506 said:
ilovethecats said:
Growler1 said:
I found a real laugher in your analysis. You think the Griz O-line is better than the Cats? m If so, you're out to lunch. Please explain all of the zero/negative yardage on running plays we have this season, compared to the Cats running game, which averages about 100 yards more per game than us. You are just like so many others who think that "big" means "good". The Cats O-line is smaller, but much quicker and faster, allowing them to run a much greater variety of running plays other than the zone-blocking our linemen have to run all of the time, because they are too slow to pull and trap-block.

griz haven't allowed a sack. that is just crazy. i think both lines are very good. griz fans like theirs better....cat fans like theirs better. both great units. but not allowing even a SINGLE sack at this point in the season is very respectful.

and classy if we're keeping score. :party:

I guess I don't follow you, griz have allowed 8 sacks, 7 in conf

i thought i heard that their starters have yet to let anyone get to the qb. maybe i dreamt it... :oops:

there you go with #'s again iltc :lol: very classy!! :thumb:

and it's Thirsty Thursday so yeah it's appropriate to DRINK!!
 
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