Krakaeur's book "Missoula" to be released April 21

[PlayerRep]

MISSOULA - Fewer students are enrolling in classes at the University of Montana.

Figures released Tuesday show that the 2015 spring semester headcount at the UM is 12,922, marking a 4.7% decrease from a year ago.

UM officials said in a news release the downturn was expected, and the current number meets the University's enrollment and budget projections for this fiscal year. :clap:

“We are where we projected we would be, given our fall enrollment numbers,” UM President Royce Engstrom said. “Our enrollment picture remains challenging as several smaller classes continue to move through our system, but we see encouraging signs for the future.”
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A spring headcount at Missoula College came in at 1,859, a 10.9% decline compared to a year ago.

http://wn.kpax.com/story/28252355/spring-enrollment-numbers-fall-at-university-of-montana" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

All is well. All is well.

Yes, UM now apparently expects 5% year over year declines, so all is well. This year over year decline was "only" 4.7%. Never mind that UM is spending huge money to build a new Missoula College, with a price tag well over $30 million, and it's year over year decline was 10.9%. I like the spin on the budget cuts. Only $2.3 million if $7.7 million programs UM planned to do are not included. I think that means a $10 million shortfall. Looking at headlines only (and not at the articles), it looks like the budget cuts announced at this time of the year in '14 and '13 were $9 million and $16 million.

http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/c34e6219a0194b9085e225ef4b7c2557/MT--UM-Budget" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

 

[Ursa Major]

The first rule of book club is there is no book club!

 

[UMGriz75]

Athletics is a key recruiting tool.

Thanks to a sustained effort by the Tourism Business Improvement District, which has allowed UM to guarantee the Montana High School Association that all tournament costs will be covered, the Class A boys will camp out in Missoula in 2016 and Adams Center executive director Brad Murphy said the school will be bidding for all the state tournaments it can get after that.

The economic benefits are fine, but hosting a state tournament means much more to the university.

After Broadview-Lavina beat Wibaux in a Southern C challenge game Monday night, Janet Jansen put in a call to UM. Jansen is the director of the Panthers’ pep band and she wanted to set up a campus tour for the band members and cheerleaders.

“Any time we got to a place that has a college, I like to have the kids have some college experience so they can see what they have to offer,” Jansen said. “I’m traveling with mostly junior high kids, so they have some time to figure out what they want to do and if there’s a college they want to look into.”

“That’s what we want so bad, to show off our university, too,” Murphy said. “We got with our recruiting department and made sure they reached out to the teams coming in, so we’ve put out invitations for tours and Destination Missoula had welcoming packages ready.”

http://missoulian.com/news/local/small-town-state-tournament-connections-everywhere-at-um-s-dahlberg/article_f2cdfa56-44e5-574c-b96d-8ac521e17b4e.html

 

[wbtfg]

Athletics is a key recruiting tool.

Thanks to a sustained effort by the Tourism Business Improvement District, which has allowed UM to guarantee the Montana High School Association that all tournament costs will be covered, the Class A boys will camp out in Missoula in 2016 and Adams Center executive director Brad Murphy said the school will be bidding for all the state tournaments it can get after that.

The economic benefits are fine, but hosting a state tournament means much more to the university.

After Broadview-Lavina beat Wibaux in a Southern C challenge game Monday night, Janet Jansen put in a call to UM. Jansen is the director of the Panthers’ pep band and she wanted to set up a campus tour for the band members and cheerleaders.

“Any time we got to a place that has a college, I like to have the kids have some college experience so they can see what they have to offer,” Jansen said. “I’m traveling with mostly junior high kids, so they have some time to figure out what they want to do and if there’s a college they want to look into.”

“That’s what we want so bad, to show off our university, too,” Murphy said. “We got with our recruiting department and made sure they reached out to the teams coming in, so we’ve put out invitations for tours and Destination Missoula had welcoming packages ready.”

http://missoulian.com/news/local/small-town-state-tournament-connections-everywhere-at-um-s-dahlberg/article_f2cdfa56-44e5-574c-b96d-8ac521e17b4e.html

Hiring brad murphy away from msu was a wise move by um. The dude gets it.

 

[UMGriz75]

From the moment I learned of a number of sexual assaults on our campus, my goals have been clear: 1) to care for the victims, 2) to rid our campus of known offenders and 3) to eliminate threats to UM’s healthy and safe learning environment.

UM’s work has come at the same time that the issue of sexual assault on college campuses continues to grow in importance and visibility:
• For much of the past year, the White House, Congress and state legislatures discussed how to ensure that colleges and universities effectively address sexual violence involving students.
• The number of institutions currently under federal investigation has grown to at least 97.
• “The Hunting Ground” and “It Happened Here,” documentaries about rape on college campuses, will be released this spring.

Engstrom continues to affirm a complete fabrication, that somehow UM was exceptional whereas, in fact, it was, and is, one of the safest places young women can be. He refuses to say that. He will not defend his University.

UM ranks very well (low) among similar institutions. And similar institutions aren't doing that badly either.

A new report from the U.S Department of Justice shows that college students are less likely to be victims of sexual assault than non-students. http://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=5176" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

 

[RABIDAWG]

All these collaborators are so busy collaborating on further collaborations!
They love that term in academia & medicine.

 

[EverettGriz]

From the moment I learned of a number of sexual assaults on our campus, my goals have been clear: 1) to care for the victims, 2) to rid our campus of known offenders and 3) to eliminate threats to UM’s healthy and safe learning environment.

UM’s work has come at the same time that the issue of sexual assault on college campuses continues to grow in importance and visibility:
• For much of the past year, the White House, Congress and state legislatures discussed how to ensure that colleges and universities effectively address sexual violence involving students.
• The number of institutions currently under federal investigation has grown to at least 97.
• “The Hunting Ground” and “It Happened Here,” documentaries about rape on college campuses, will be released this spring.

Engstrom continues to affirm a complete fabrication, that somehow UM was exceptional whereas, in fact, it was, and is, one of the safest places young women can be. He refuses to say that. He will not defend his University.

UM ranks very well (low) among similar institutions. And similar institutions aren't doing that badly either.

A new report from the U.S Department of Justice shows that college students are less likely to be victims of sexual assault than non-students. http://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=5176" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

???

He stated that campus assaults are growing in importance and visibility, not numbers.

His statement is not only 100% accurate, but you'd be fool to ignore the public spotlight on the situation, whether partially fabricated or not. Any good leader knows that perception rules.

 

[getgrizzy]

From the moment I learned of a number of sexual assaults on our campus, my goals have been clear: 1) to care for the victims, 2) to rid our campus of known offenders and 3) to eliminate threats to UM’s healthy and safe learning environment.

UM’s work has come at the same time that the issue of sexual assault on college campuses continues to grow in importance and visibility:
• For much of the past year, the White House, Congress and state legislatures discussed how to ensure that colleges and universities effectively address sexual violence involving students.
• The number of institutions currently under federal investigation has grown to at least 97.
• “The Hunting Ground” and “It Happened Here,” documentaries about rape on college campuses, will be released this spring.

Engstrom continues to affirm a complete fabrication, that somehow UM was exceptional whereas, in fact, it was, and is, one of the safest places young women can be. He refuses to say that. He will not defend his University.

UM ranks very well (low) among similar institutions. And similar institutions aren't doing that badly either.

A new report from the U.S Department of Justice shows that college students are less likely to be victims of sexual assault than non-students. http://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=5176" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

???

He stated that campus assaults are growing in importance and visibility, not numbers.

His statement is not only 100% accurate, but you'd be fool to ignore the public spotlight on the situation, whether partially fabricated or not. Any good leader knows that perception rules.

Not to mention that the Issue isn't the number of assaults, but how they're handled. Are there also colleges/towns that handle them worse? Probably not many. The black eye is that it appeared as if no one wanted to pursue a rape claim. What highlighted it was the high number of accusations made against football players. Johnson, Donaldson and three others were reported to police. Three more were reported in the Missoulian and to UM, but not the police. A total of eight players, assuming some weren't accused more than once.

 

[PlayerRep]

From the moment I learned of a number of sexual assaults on our campus, my goals have been clear: 1) to care for the victims, 2) to rid our campus of known offenders and 3) to eliminate threats to UM’s healthy and safe learning environment.

UM’s work has come at the same time that the issue of sexual assault on college campuses continues to grow in importance and visibility:
• For much of the past year, the White House, Congress and state legislatures discussed how to ensure that colleges and universities effectively address sexual violence involving students.
• The number of institutions currently under federal investigation has grown to at least 97.
• “The Hunting Ground” and “It Happened Here,” documentaries about rape on college campuses, will be released this spring.

Engstrom continues to affirm a complete fabrication, that somehow UM was exceptional whereas, in fact, it was, and is, one of the safest places young women can be. He refuses to say that. He will not defend his University.

UM ranks very well (low) among similar institutions. And similar institutions aren't doing that badly either.

A new report from the U.S Department of Justice shows that college students are less likely to be victims of sexual assault than non-students. http://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=5176" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

???

He stated that campus assaults are growing in importance and visibility, not numbers.

His statement is not only 100% accurate, but you'd be fool to ignore the public spotlight on the situation, whether partially fabricated or not. Any good leader knows that perception rules.

Not to mention that the Issue isn't the number of assaults, but how they're handled. Are there also colleges/towns that handle them worse? Probably not many. The black eye is that it appeared as if no one wanted to pursue a rape claim. What highlighted it was the high number of accusations made against football players. Johnson, Donaldson and three others were reported to police. Three more were reported in the Missoulian and to UM, but not the police. A total of eight players, assuming some weren't accused more than once.

You sure like alleged, unsubstantiated and false reports, don't you? As you seem to admit, in that group, UM had 1 athlete ultimately get into trouble for sexual assault. Donaldson. JJ, acquitted and allowed to remain in school. Police didn't pursue any allegation other than those 2. No athlete who hired an attorney kicked out of school. Unsubstantiated reports of Missoulian went no where, and stopped after Florio left. So, the bottom line appears to be, from your info, that 1 athlete in a decade or two ended up with a sexual assault allegation that stuck.

 

[Raider]

...and here we go!

I don't know how to post pictures, but this would be a good time for a pic of a guy eating popcorn and waiting for the show.

420, can you help a brother out?

 

[getgrizzy]

Engstrom continues to affirm a complete fabrication, that somehow UM was exceptional whereas, in fact, it was, and is, one of the safest places young women can be. He refuses to say that. He will not defend his University.

UM ranks very well (low) among similar institutions. And similar institutions aren't doing that badly either.

???

He stated that campus assaults are growing in importance and visibility, not numbers.

His statement is not only 100% accurate, but you'd be fool to ignore the public spotlight on the situation, whether partially fabricated or not. Any good leader knows that perception rules.

Not to mention that the Issue isn't the number of assaults, but how they're handled. Are there also colleges/towns that handle them worse? Probably not many. The black eye is that it appeared as if no one wanted to pursue a rape claim. What highlighted it was the high number of accusations made against football players. Johnson, Donaldson and three others were reported to police. Three more were reported in the Missoulian and to UM, but not the police. A total of eight players, assuming some weren't accused more than once.

You sure like alleged, unsubstantiated and false reports, don't you? As you seem to admit, in that group, UM had 1 athlete ultimately get into trouble for sexual assault. Donaldson. JJ, acquitted and allowed to remain in school. Police didn't pursue any allegation other than those 2. No athlete who hired an attorney kicked out of school. Unsubstantiated reports of Missoulian went no where, and stopped after Florio left. So, the bottom line appears to be, from your info, that 1 athlete in a decade or two ended up with a sexual assault allegation that stuck.

No. I am indifferent about the word allegation. It stands on its own meaning. You seem to be afraid of it. As if it's some kind of statement in fact. Just because some alleges, or blames, someone for something doesn't mean they did it. Are you really this stupid or are you trying to manipulate something or someone?

 

[mtgrizrule]

???

He stated that campus assaults are growing in importance and visibility, not numbers.

His statement is not only 100% accurate, but you'd be fool to ignore the public spotlight on the situation, whether partially fabricated or not. Any good leader knows that perception rules.

Not to mention that the Issue isn't the number of assaults, but how they're handled. Are there also colleges/towns that handle them worse? Probably not many. The black eye is that it appeared as if no one wanted to pursue a rape claim. What highlighted it was the high number of accusations made against football players. Johnson, Donaldson and three others were reported to police. Three more were reported in the Missoulian and to UM, but not the police. A total of eight players, assuming some weren't accused more than once.

You sure like alleged, unsubstantiated and false reports, don't you? As you seem to admit, in that group, UM had 1 athlete ultimately get into trouble for sexual assault. Donaldson. JJ, acquitted and allowed to remain in school. Police didn't pursue any allegation other than those 2. No athlete who hired an attorney kicked out of school. Unsubstantiated reports of Missoulian went no where, and stopped after Florio left. So, the bottom line appears to be, from your info, that 1 athlete in a decade or two ended up with a sexual assault allegation that stuck.

No. I am indifferent about the word allegation. It stands on its own meaning. You seem to be afraid of it. As if it's some kind of statement in fact. Just because some alleges, or blames, someone for something doesn't mean they did it. Are you really this stupid or are you trying to manipulate something or someone?

Crap, get the railroad crew ready, this train is about to derail. If by some chance it does not derail, this thread might make 50 pages upon the book being released. Then again, how much of this thread will be crap, like the book?

 

[PlayerRep]

???

He stated that campus assaults are growing in importance and visibility, not numbers.

His statement is not only 100% accurate, but you'd be fool to ignore the public spotlight on the situation, whether partially fabricated or not. Any good leader knows that perception rules.

Not to mention that the Issue isn't the number of assaults, but how they're handled. Are there also colleges/towns that handle them worse? Probably not many. The black eye is that it appeared as if no one wanted to pursue a rape claim. What highlighted it was the high number of accusations made against football players. Johnson, Donaldson and three others were reported to police. Three more were reported in the Missoulian and to UM, but not the police. A total of eight players, assuming some weren't accused more than once.

You sure like alleged, unsubstantiated and false reports, don't you? As you seem to admit, in that group, UM had 1 athlete ultimately get into trouble for sexual assault. Donaldson. JJ, acquitted and allowed to remain in school. Police didn't pursue any allegation other than those 2. No athlete who hired an attorney kicked out of school. Unsubstantiated reports of Missoulian went no where, and stopped after Florio left. So, the bottom line appears to be, from your info, that 1 athlete in a decade or two ended up with a sexual assault allegation that stuck.

No. I am indifferent about the word allegation. It stands on its own meaning. You seem to be afraid of it. As if it's some kind of statement in fact. Just because some alleges, or blames, someone for something doesn't mean they did it. Are you really this stupid or are you trying to manipulate something or someone?

When allegations, or even unsubstantiated rumors, don't go anywhere or result in anything or any action, or get shown to be untrue, why do you keep bringing them up? You are the one who posts allegations and rumors as if they are fact. You are the one who treats the underlying matter/incident as fact, based on merely an allegation. That's my biggest gripe with you. If an allegation or rumor doesn't go anywhere, then there is almost never a reason to keep repeating it--unless, of course, it furthers your agenda.

 

[getgrizzy]

Not to mention that the Issue isn't the number of assaults, but how they're handled. Are there also colleges/towns that handle them worse? Probably not many. The black eye is that it appeared as if no one wanted to pursue a rape claim. What highlighted it was the high number of accusations made against football players. Johnson, Donaldson and three others were reported to police. Three more were reported in the Missoulian and to UM, but not the police. A total of eight players, assuming some weren't accused more than once.

You sure like alleged, unsubstantiated and false reports, don't you? As you seem to admit, in that group, UM had 1 athlete ultimately get into trouble for sexual assault. Donaldson. JJ, acquitted and allowed to remain in school. Police didn't pursue any allegation other than those 2. No athlete who hired an attorney kicked out of school. Unsubstantiated reports of Missoulian went no where, and stopped after Florio left. So, the bottom line appears to be, from your info, that 1 athlete in a decade or two ended up with a sexual assault allegation that stuck.

No. I am indifferent about the word allegation. It stands on its own meaning. You seem to be afraid of it. As if it's some kind of statement in fact. Just because some alleges, or blames, someone for something doesn't mean they did it. Are you really this stupid or are you trying to manipulate something or someone?

When allegations, or even unsubstantiated rumors, don't go anywhere or result in anything or any action, or get shown to be untrue, why do you keep bringing them up? You are the one who posts allegations and rumors as if they are fact. You are the one who treats the underlying matter/incident as fact, based on merely an allegation. That's my biggest gripe with you. If an allegation or rumor doesn't go anywhere, then there is almost never a reason to keep repeating it--unless, of course, it furthers your agenda.

I refer to them, appropriately, in the past tense. Allegations were made. Just because formal charges weren't sought doesn't me the allegation didn't happen. Good grief, quit playing dumb.
Again, the spotlight isn't on us because of the number of total allegations, charges and convictions. It's how they were handled. The fact that there were a relatively high number (8) of football players alleged to have been involved is part of the reason this is such a hot topic.

 

[EverettGriz]

 

[UMGriz75]

???

He stated that campus assaults are growing in importance and visibility, not numbers.

His statement is not only 100% accurate, but you'd be fool to ignore the public spotlight on the situation, whether partially fabricated or not. Any good leader knows that perception rules.

This is a great example of missing the point.

"His statement is 100% accurate." No. To concerned parents and students, it does not convey to them the fact that UM was not "rape nation," it is in fact one of the safest campuses to be on, and it conceals the fact the Universities in general have lower rates of sexual assault than comparable populations of people within the relevant age group.

Instead, by leaving out key facts, he perpetuates the notion that "rape is a big problem at UM," and, as you say, feeds the "public perception." Engstrom is the source of the public perception, by his refusal to defend his institution, leaving the public with the notion that the generalized accusation of "rape nation" must be true.

And that is the salient fact that Engstrom leaves out: it's just not true.

 

[UMGriz75]

A point: At UM, for the years 2011-2013, there were 25 reported "violent" sexual assaults. At MSU there were 33. Those rates, given the population sizes, are tiny.

However, it is true that UM's "rate" of "violent sexual assault" is 20% lower on a population basis over the three year period than MSU's and 25% lower on an absolute number basis.

The fact is that a 20% difference is very significant to the victims, and of no consolation for the fact that Engstrom perpetuates the notion that UM has the problem, whereas the greater problem is actually at MSU, and 20/25% is significantly greater.

In the most recent reporting year, 2013, MSU's rate was 30% higher than UMs.

In 2011, "before Engstrom's new policies," MSU's rate was 44% higher than UM's. That's huge, and yet that is the year that Engstrom permitted and facilitated the "rape nation" allegation because he refused to defend his institution. The Krakauer book is very much the result of the "public perception" facilitated by Royce Engstrom.

The "fact" is, both rates are quite low.

 

[Raider]

That's the one!

 

[EverettGriz]

That's the one!

:thumb:

Happy to help, Raid!

 

[Umista]

I am jumping in as I hate being left out in the cold. Besides this will go far beyond 31 and I want to help it along and be part of it.
Royce will get much more GOOD PR from athletics. He has been provided this information but he simply does not get it.
He seems to think hiring sales people to spread the good PR will do the job. Not!
At the end of the day it can be stated Royce knows about being a prof and very little about management. But then again he is managed by similar thinking.