OldtiredGRiz said:I waffle back and forth on this one. My biggest concern about paying NCAA athletes is the haves vs the have-nots situation. I could foresee some of the haves like Texas, Ohio State, etc offering way more pay than some of the other institutions that don't have the cash to compete with them. But yes, the NCAA really needs to take a look at the whole concept of amateur college sports and make some major changes. Between academics and athletics, a student athlete basically has two full time jobs. It's a lot of work. A full ride athlete shouldn't go to bed hungry. I sort of think that the big conferences (the haves) aren't all that far from up and leaving the NCAA.
My son is a student athlete and I thought about that issue last fall when he called and told me he was out of money on his meal card. It took me about 10 minutes to load a couple hundred bucks onto his meal card, but I realized at the time that some people might not be able to do that for their kids. It just doesn't seem right to me.
OldtiredGRiz said:I waffle back and forth on this one. My biggest concern about paying NCAA athletes is the haves vs the have-nots situation. I could foresee some of the haves like Texas, Ohio State, etc offering way more pay than some of the other institutions that don't have the cash to compete with them. But yes, the NCAA really needs to take a look at the whole concept of amateur college sports and make some major changes. Between academics and athletics, a student athlete basically has two full time jobs. It's a lot of work. A full ride athlete shouldn't go to bed hungry. I sort of think that the big conferences (the haves) aren't all that far from up and leaving the NCAA.
My son is a student athlete and I thought about that issue last fall when he called and told me he was out of money on his meal card. It took me about 10 minutes to load a couple hundred bucks onto his meal card, but I realized at the time that some people might not be able to do that for their kids. It just doesn't seem right to me.
tnt said:OldtiredGRiz said:I waffle back and forth on this one. My biggest concern about paying NCAA athletes is the haves vs the have-nots situation. I could foresee some of the haves like Texas, Ohio State, etc offering way more pay than some of the other institutions that don't have the cash to compete with them. But yes, the NCAA really needs to take a look at the whole concept of amateur college sports and make some major changes. Between academics and athletics, a student athlete basically has two full time jobs. It's a lot of work. A full ride athlete shouldn't go to bed hungry. I sort of think that the big conferences (the haves) aren't all that far from up and leaving the NCAA.
My son is a student athlete and I thought about that issue last fall when he called and told me he was out of money on his meal card. It took me about 10 minutes to load a couple hundred bucks onto his meal card, but I realized at the time that some people might not be able to do that for their kids. It just doesn't seem right to me.
You hit the nail on the head. I sent two to out of State schools on athletic scholarships (full ride) and it frankly cost me a whole lot more for those kids than the others especially the two on academic scholarships. Little things even like spending money, transportation, oh yeah the meal card. The athletes couldn't work, (even in the summer) they already had a full time job............ I'm not so sure but we lose some great athletes at every level because they can't afford school on a full ride............ Now we can't even buy 'em a decent meal once in a while
This "logic" just lost me. If the guy was there for three years and was productive enough to earn millions after his junior year, he must have contributed enough to justify his schollie. Unlikely there was a line of equally skilled players not getting schollies.grizare#1 said:What does kind of piss me off a bit is when a student athlete who uses three years of his scholarship and then enters the draft to make millions, leaving some other student on the street because there were not enough scholarships to go around and the guy that did get one just wasted it. No one in that situation wins other than the drafted. If an athlete enters the draft before graduation then either he or the team that drafts him should pay back the university for those lost years.
Point lost to illiteracy.grizzpaw said:its funny how many people seem to thing that someone's elses' time is not worth much but there time is worth gold. the amount of time and money these students make for their schools
CDAGRIZ said:tnt said:OldtiredGRiz said:I waffle back and forth on this one. My biggest concern about paying NCAA athletes is the haves vs the have-nots situation. I could foresee some of the haves like Texas, Ohio State, etc offering way more pay than some of the other institutions that don't have the cash to compete with them. But yes, the NCAA really needs to take a look at the whole concept of amateur college sports and make some major changes. Between academics and athletics, a student athlete basically has two full time jobs. It's a lot of work. A full ride athlete shouldn't go to bed hungry. I sort of think that the big conferences (the haves) aren't all that far from up and leaving the NCAA.
My son is a student athlete and I thought about that issue last fall when he called and told me he was out of money on his meal card. It took me about 10 minutes to load a couple hundred bucks onto his meal card, but I realized at the time that some people might not be able to do that for their kids. It just doesn't seem right to me.
You hit the nail on the head. I sent two to out of State schools on athletic scholarships (full ride) and it frankly cost me a whole lot more for those kids than the others especially the two on academic scholarships. Little things even like spending money, transportation, oh yeah the meal card. The athletes couldn't work, (even in the summer) they already had a full time job............ I'm not so sure but we lose some great athletes at every level because they can't afford school on a full ride............ Now we can't even buy 'em a decent meal once in a while
F'n A, how many kids do you have?
CDAGRIZ said:I share the concerns over cutting players a paycheck. Recruiting might get even more corrupted, and the landscape even more lopsided. Line drawing would also be an issue because the U of Idaho punter, though very busy, probably doesn't bring in much revenue. Does he get the same pay as Jameis Winston?
Accordingly, wouldn't a fair solution be to not outright pay players, but, as PR mentioned, permit them to make money on the side based on their athletic abilities? If a dude wants to go do a TV ad for Wilkins Hyundai and Subaru, let him get paid for it. You won't have the line drawing issues because Billy Wilkins of Wilkins Hyundai and Subaru doesn't want the punter in his ad, he wants the QB.
Let them eat what they can kill.