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Jeremy Calhoun

HookedonGriz said:
WaGriz4life said:
HookedonGriz said:
fencer24 said:
Wow, just went through the whole 18 pages looking for any real information on why Calhoun is no longer on the team, and I still don't know for sure. I do know that there is a lot of knitting going on, and questions about the competence of young men in college to function without their parents' input, and 18-24 year olds who have to ask their sergeant for input, which is of course graciously offered in the spirit it is meant to be taken. What a tour de force folks, this has been impressive.

Now, why did Calhoun leave/not be allowed to remain?

He was dismissed from the team by coach Hauck.

Jeremy’s version - felt underutilized, like he didn’t get a fair shot, wanted to use an entire season next year to help the Griz and play with his twin one more year. Wants to help Griz RTD and could do that more effectively with a whole season

Bobby’s version - he didn’t want to play in the last 2 games so he’s a quitter.
You are purposefully leaving out the fact that he knocked a UM student dead and broke his jaw a week before fall camp started in stocks parking lot. He’s lucky to have played at all this year. 100% support Hauck on this

That he more than served his time for. In fact was published well above and beyond the student code of conduct. I’m sure Bobby would treat his own kid the same here wouldn’t he
You are setting a new record for crybaby posts regarding an issue that has been resolved and is in the rear view mirror. You're just about to pass Argh's whining about poor Gresch Jenson. Or the democrat's denial of who won the 2016 election. We care about this week's game with MSU; you just care about a HC's decision that was his to make.
 
PlayerRep said:
catsack said:
PlayerRep said:
catsack said:
The only way to allow him to redshirt would be to carry his three game suspension over to next year sounds fair enough! If it wasn’t for that you wouldn’t even be talking about him redshirting , it’s his own fault he missed three games this year! Let’s reward someone who got in trouble!

Does it matter whose fault it is? Is it his fault that he got a concussion and missed some games?
Just like I said if he hadn’t got himself in trouble we wouldn’t be talking about it simple as that.

If he hadn't gotten a concussion, we wouldn't be talking about it either.

Do you think the Griz have a better chance of beating the Cats without him?

Do you think the Griz will be better next year without him?

I know you will be unable to answer the questions.

PR, with some truth from the rafters. Once again.
 
PlayerRep said:
WaGriz4life said:
Hauck for sure made the right decision. Anyone who doesn’t want to wear the maroon and silver against Idaho or the Rats should never be allowed in the facilities again
Except that he wanted to play against those teams next year, and also play in 9 other games. So, his thought was to play 11 games next year, instead of 2, or whatever, this year.
And take away another year's schollie that could be used elsewhere. What do you think the probability would be that he would be available for 11 games next year? For a multitude of reasons, he has not exhibited dependable availability. And maybe, just maybe, his brain should not be subjected to another year of contact.
 
WaGriz4life said:
fencer24 said:
Wow, just went through the whole 18 pages looking for any real information on why Calhoun is no longer on the team, and I still don't know for sure. I do know that there is a lot of knitting going on, and questions about the competence of young men in college to function without their parents' input, and 18-24 year olds who have to ask their sergeant for input, which is of course graciously offered in the spirit it is meant to be taken. What a tour de force folks, this has been impressive.

Now, why did Calhoun leave/not be allowed to remain?

Because he told Coach Hauck he didn’t want to play against Idaho and Montana State so he can redshirt. Hauck said here is the door since you just quit the team. What is confusing? Are you cool with a player wanting to sit our two biggest games of the year.

I don't view saying that you'd like to redshirt instead of playing 2 more games this year, and would like to play 11 games next year, is quitting the team. I can't imagine that Calhoun said "I quit". I wonder if he even said: "I won't play anymore this year."
 
kemajic said:
PlayerRep said:
WaGriz4life said:
Hauck for sure made the right decision. Anyone who doesn’t want to wear the maroon and silver against Idaho or the Rats should never be allowed in the facilities again
Except that he wanted to play against those teams next year, and also play in 9 other games. So, his thought was to play 11 games next year, instead of 2, or whatever, this year.
And take away another year's schollie that could be used elsewhere. What do you think the probability would be that he would be available for 11 games next year? For a multitude of reasons, he has not exhibited dependable availability. And maybe, just maybe, his brain should not be subjected to another year of contact.

So, maybe, just maybe, be a man and say that as a head fucking ball coach in 2018.
 
PlayerRep said:
catsack said:
PlayerRep said:
catsack said:
The only way to allow him to redshirt would be to carry his three game suspension over to next year sounds fair enough! If it wasn’t for that you wouldn’t even be talking about him redshirting , it’s his own fault he missed three games this year! Let’s reward someone who got in trouble!

Does it matter whose fault it is? Is it his fault that he got a concussion and missed some games?
Just like I said if he hadn’t got himself in trouble we wouldn’t be talking about it simple as that.

If he hadn't gotten a concussion, we wouldn't be talking about it either.

Do you think the Griz have a better chance of beating the Cats without him?

Do you think the Griz will be better next year without him?

I know you will be unable to answer the questions.

Yes and yes that’s easy!
 
kemajic said:
HookedonGriz said:
WaGriz4life said:
HookedonGriz said:
He was dismissed from the team by coach Hauck.

Jeremy’s version - felt underutilized, like he didn’t get a fair shot, wanted to use an entire season next year to help the Griz and play with his twin one more year. Wants to help Griz RTD and could do that more effectively with a whole season

Bobby’s version - he didn’t want to play in the last 2 games so he’s a quitter.
You are purposefully leaving out the fact that he knocked a UM student dead and broke his jaw a week before fall camp started in stocks parking lot. He’s lucky to have played at all this year. 100% support Hauck on this

That he more than served his time for. In fact was published well above and beyond the student code of conduct. I’m sure Bobby would treat his own kid the same here wouldn’t he
You are setting a new record for crybaby posts regarding an issue that has been resolved and is in the rear view mirror. You're just about to pass Argh's whining about poor Gresch Jenson. Or the democrat's denial of who won the 2016 election. We care about this week's game with MSU; you just care about a HC's decision that was his to make.

Ah the irony in getting lectured by the biggest bitch ass cry baby of them all....the one who cried in his cereal last season and literally said on this board “I’m not coming to any more games or renewing my season tickets if Bob Stitt is back”. Talk about a crybaby. That’s also the biggest fair weather fan bitch move I’ve ever encountered. To 99% of Griz Nation, that was one big “waaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh”.
 
Fahque said:
catsack said:
grizband said:
catsack said:
The only way to allow him to redshirt would be to carry his three game suspension over to next year sounds fair enough! If it wasn’t for that you wouldn’t even be talking about him redshirting , it’s his own fault he missed three games this year! Let’s reward someone who got in trouble!
He already served the suspension, is this dictated by something in the new rule?

If it wasn’t for the suspension we wouldn’t be having this conversation, he would have played in more than four games by now ! So he would have had to ask to redshirt like four games back! So if he was allowed to redshirt now the suspension is meaningless, other then him getting in trouble allows him an opportunity at a fifth year of eligibility, Hauck made the right decision!

But he didn’t play in more than four games so what is your point?
He should have and could have . Point is if he redshirts it is because of suspension, which ultimately voids said suspension, so let’s let these get suspended ah shoot we’ll just use the 4 game redshirt rule and your suspension is wiped out, didn’t hurt you any to get in trouble!
 
kemajic said:
PlayerRep said:
WaGriz4life said:
Hauck for sure made the right decision. Anyone who doesn’t want to wear the maroon and silver against Idaho or the Rats should never be allowed in the facilities again
Except that he wanted to play against those teams next year, and also play in 9 other games. So, his thought was to play 11 games next year, instead of 2, or whatever, this year.
And take away another year's schollie that could be used elsewhere. What do you think the probability would be that he would be available for 11 games next year? For a multitude of reasons, he has not exhibited dependable availability. And maybe, just maybe, his brain should not be subjected to another year of contact.

I think the possibility would be very good that he was available for 11 games next year. Wouldn't get in trouble. Would have been very motivated to have a complete year, given what happened this year.

If his brain shouldn't be subjected to another year of contact next year, then query whether he should have been cleared to play more this year, and whether he should be allowed to play 2, or more, games this year?

I would always give a schollie to a guy who has proven to be the team's top running back. Doesn't seem like a close call to me.

I also think the fact that his twin brother will be back next year, and the family would be coming to games, would be a positive, in terms of predating the kid's reliability.

I would think having the kid graduate on time, would be good for the team's APR. Do you think he will come back to school next year, to graduate? I assume not, especially if he doesn't have his tuition paid for, like they do now for kids who have exhausted eligiblity but not graduated.

The Griz have schollie's now, in case they find drop downs or transfers or kids that don't end up going to the Pac-12. It'w not like there are no schollies left.

Also, what about saying: "Jeremy, you are a very good player. We'd prefer to have you now for the next several games. You have been playing very well. We might even get to the playoffs. However, if you want to redshirt, you can do that. However, given our recruiting to date, and our needs, it may turn out that we won't have a scholarship for you next year. Again, we'd rather have you now. But if you want to redshirt, go for it, and take the risk that we won't have a scholarship or full scholarship for you next year."

Again, I don't know any of the facts. But I heard that they got into it. Mistake by Calhoun. Can't or shouldn't do that with a coach. But, in my view, the team is not as good it would have otherwise been this year, or next year.
 
catsack said:
PlayerRep said:
catsack said:
PlayerRep said:
Does it matter whose fault it is? Is it his fault that he got a concussion and missed some games?
Just like I said if he hadn’t got himself in trouble we wouldn’t be talking about it simple as that.

If he hadn't gotten a concussion, we wouldn't be talking about it either.

Do you think the Griz have a better chance of beating the Cats without him?

Do you think the Griz will be better next year without him?

I know you will be unable to answer the questions.

Yes and yes that’s easy!

You are a dumbass. The Griz are not better without Calhoun this year or next year.
 
PlayerRep said:
kemajic said:
PlayerRep said:
WaGriz4life said:
Hauck for sure made the right decision. Anyone who doesn’t want to wear the maroon and silver against Idaho or the Rats should never be allowed in the facilities again
Except that he wanted to play against those teams next year, and also play in 9 other games. So, his thought was to play 11 games next year, instead of 2, or whatever, this year.
And take away another year's schollie that could be used elsewhere. What do you think the probability would be that he would be available for 11 games next year? For a multitude of reasons, he has not exhibited dependable availability. And maybe, just maybe, his brain should not be subjected to another year of contact.

I think the possibility would be very good that he was available for 11 games next year. Wouldn't get in trouble. Would have been very motivated to have a complete year, given what happened this year.

If his brain shouldn't be subjected to another year of contact next year, then query whether he should have been cleared to play more this year, and whether he should be allowed to play 2, or more, games this year?

I would always give a schollie to a guy who has proven to be the team's top running back. Doesn't seem like a close call to me.

I also think the fact that his twin brother will be back next year, and the family would be coming to games, would be a positive, in terms of predating the kid's reliability.

I would think having the kid graduate on time, would be good for the team's APR. Do you think he will come back to school next year, to graduate? I assume not, especially if he doesn't have his tuition paid for, like they do now for kids who have exhausted eligiblity but not graduated.

The Griz have schollie's now, in case they find drop downs or transfers or kids that don't end up going to the Pac-12. It'w not like there are no schollies left.

Also, what about saying: "Jeremy, you are a very good player. We'd prefer to have you now for the next several games. You have been playing very well. We might even get to the playoffs. However, if you want to redshirt, you can do that. However, given our recruiting to date, and our needs, it may turn out that we won't have a scholarship for you next year. Again, we'd rather have you now. But if you want to redshirt, go for it, and take the risk that we won't have a scholarship or full scholarship for you next year."

Again, I don't know any of the facts. But I heard that they got into it. Mistake by Calhoun. Can't or shouldn't do that with a coach. But, in my view, the team is not as good it would have otherwise been this year, or next year.

Sammy Sosa, Hoooooome Ruuuuuun
 
catsack said:
Fahque said:
catsack said:
grizband said:
He already served the suspension, is this dictated by something in the new rule?

If it wasn’t for the suspension we wouldn’t be having this conversation, he would have played in more than four games by now ! So he would have had to ask to redshirt like four games back! So if he was allowed to redshirt now the suspension is meaningless, other then him getting in trouble allows him an opportunity at a fifth year of eligibility, Hauck made the right decision!

But he didn’t play in more than four games so what is your point?
He should have and could have . Point is if he redshirts it is because of suspension, which ultimately voids said suspension, so let’s let these get suspended ah shoot we’ll just use the 4 game redshirt rule and your suspension is wiped out, didn’t hurt you any to get in trouble!

Again, you are a dumbass. Redshirting does not avoid suspension. What planet are you from? I have always thought you were an idiot, but it's worse than I thought. Saying you never played the game would be a compliment.
 
PlayerRep said:
catsack said:
PlayerRep said:
catsack said:
Just like I said if he hadn’t got himself in trouble we wouldn’t be talking about it simple as that.

If he hadn't gotten a concussion, we wouldn't be talking about it either.

Do you think the Griz have a better chance of beating the Cats without him?

Do you think the Griz will be better next year without him?

I know you will be unable to answer the questions.

Yes and yes that’s easy!

You are a dumbass. The Griz are not better without Calhoun this year or next year.

Sure they are !!
 
catsack said:
PlayerRep said:
catsack said:
PlayerRep said:
If he hadn't gotten a concussion, we wouldn't be talking about it either.

Do you think the Griz have a better chance of beating the Cats without him?

Do you think the Griz will be better next year without him?

I know you will be unable to answer the questions.

Yes and yes that’s easy!

You are a dumbass. The Griz are not better without Calhoun this year or next year.

Sure they are !!

Okay, why do'n't you line up the support for your view that the Griz are better without him?
 
catsack said:
Fahque said:
catsack said:
grizband said:
He already served the suspension, is this dictated by something in the new rule?

If it wasn’t for the suspension we wouldn’t be having this conversation, he would have played in more than four games by now ! So he would have had to ask to redshirt like four games back! So if he was allowed to redshirt now the suspension is meaningless, other then him getting in trouble allows him an opportunity at a fifth year of eligibility, Hauck made the right decision!

But he didn’t play in more than four games so what is your point?
He should have and could have . Point is if he redshirts it is because of suspension, which ultimately voids said suspension, so let’s let these get suspended ah shoot we’ll just use the 4 game redshirt rule and your suspension is wiped out, didn’t hurt you any to get in trouble!

If if‘s and buts were candy and nuts
 
HookedonGriz said:
PlayerRep said:
kemajic said:
PlayerRep said:
Except that he wanted to play against those teams next year, and also play in 9 other games. So, his thought was to play 11 games next year, instead of 2, or whatever, this year.
And take away another year's schollie that could be used elsewhere. What do you think the probability would be that he would be available for 11 games next year? For a multitude of reasons, he has not exhibited dependable availability. And maybe, just maybe, his brain should not be subjected to another year of contact.

I think the possibility would be very good that he was available for 11 games next year. Wouldn't get in trouble. Would have been very motivated to have a complete year, given what happened this year.

If his brain shouldn't be subjected to another year of contact next year, then query whether he should have been cleared to play more this year, and whether he should be allowed to play 2, or more, games this year?

I would always give a schollie to a guy who has proven to be the team's top running back. Doesn't seem like a close call to me.

I also think the fact that his twin brother will be back next year, and the family would be coming to games, would be a positive, in terms of predating the kid's reliability.

I would think having the kid graduate on time, would be good for the team's APR. Do you think he will come back to school next year, to graduate? I assume not, especially if he doesn't have his tuition paid for, like they do now for kids who have exhausted eligiblity but not graduated.

The Griz have schollie's now, in case they find drop downs or transfers or kids that don't end up going to the Pac-12. It'w not like there are no schollies left.

Also, what about saying: "Jeremy, you are a very good player. We'd prefer to have you now for the next several games. You have been playing very well. We might even get to the playoffs. However, if you want to redshirt, you can do that. However, given our recruiting to date, and our needs, it may turn out that we won't have a scholarship for you next year. Again, we'd rather have you now. But if you want to redshirt, go for it, and take the risk that we won't have a scholarship or full scholarship for you next year."

Again, I don't know any of the facts. But I heard that they got into it. Mistake by Calhoun. Can't or shouldn't do that with a coach. But, in my view, the team is not as good it would have otherwise been this year, or next year.

Sammy Sosa, Hoooooome Ruuuuuun

PR just casually knocking it out of the fucking park with a walk-off and then giving the other team swirlies in solo cups in the parking lot. Nothing to see here.
 
Unfortunately, part of Hauck's job is to make tough decisions. I am sure a lot went this decision. Some of what I am going to breakdown here is based on my personal experiences (not at Hauck's level), some classes I took in athletic management, and some common sense thinking. Before that, I do wish the GRIZ would just come out with the reasons behind all this, but I doubt it will happen. So, here it goes.

(1) The downtown issue is the only known issue with Calhoun. I am thinking, if there were not more things in this equation, a player of Calhoun's talent would have been a bigger part of the team this season, and/or be welcomed back next season to get completely healthy, make next year's team better, further his education, and experience a final football season with his twin.

(2) What more could've he done that led to this outcome? We know he didn't do anything more illegal. So, there are some minor things that led to all this. Hauck is a stickler for team participation, grades, class attendance, extra time dedicating to bettering as a player, role model, and student. I am guessing it's some combination of tardiness for team functions, class attendance, borderline grades, maybe some run ins with teammates, some questionable social related decisions, and toeing the line a little too much in some areas.

I am thinking Hauck felt everything added up to not justifying keeping him under scholarship for another year, and to use that scholarship for someone else that bought in more, with more leadership. Maybe it all took away from the dynamics of the team, especially negatively influencing the younger players. It could also be a way for to send a loud message to his players, that total buy in and following Hauck's expectations, guidelines, rules, and responsibilities is of upmost importance. Maybe Hauck learned from his 1st round as GRIZ Coach, and felt Calhoun might be a risk to do something worse, that would put him, the team, and university in a worse situation.

If Jeremy were doing everything that Hauck and teammates expect, honestly, why wouldn't Calhoun be in a bigger role this season, and/or playing 1 more season? I feel, I know and trust Hauck well enough to know there is more to all this. Things that will not be of public knowledge. There is no need to disclose information that could further negatively impact whatever future Calhoun has. In this situation, I honestly feel, Hauck and the University are playing it best by keeping everything in house.

As for Coach Hauck, this somewhat sends a message to the fans that he 100% believes in the importance of Character. After all, too many questioned Hauck's stand on character in his 1st stint. I wish Jeremy the best. I hope any issues and struggles he is having, that he gets through and becomes the best person he can be.
 

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