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AZGrizFan said:
GrizLA said:
It's all the same to me. but, back on the subject, deduct rent, food, clothing, rec from the costs and college is a very good deal in returns. If your ultimate goal is money, that is easy to acquire with hard work and ability to see a break and use it, but for a history or English or art major, maybe the cost is an intangible thing and happiness and satisfaction count more than cash.

Agreed on a number of fronts. My kids’ college (outside of living expenses) cost about $40,000 each. Then again, they got useful degrees that can help them get where they want to be in life. I wouldn’t have agreed to spend $40,000 on any number of degrees…

You can be a physician with an art or philosophy degree. So I'm curious what degree would have said no to paying for?
 
mthoopsfan said:
uptopgriz said:
Higher-ed around the country are adapting and offering micro-credentials, like getting an analytics certificate. It will interesting to see if the MUS jumps on board and starts looking for ways to connect people to these types of certificates. The MUS is way behind with online education programs compared to Universites nationally. Western Govenors University is gaining a strong foothold in Montana and is significantly taking students from the MUS.

Montana probably has some bad profs too. Just into DEI and woke.

Arizona State University is among the fastest growing in America, its also regarded as one of the most liberal public Universities. Go figure, people want their kids to be well-rounded human-beings that have empathy for others.
 
uptopgriz said:
mthoopsfan said:
Montana probably has some bad profs too. Just into DEI and woke.

Arizona State University is among the fastest growing in America, its also regarded as one of the most liberal public Universities. Go figure, people want their kids to be well-rounded human-beings that have empathy for others.
While ASU is now the largest university in the US, it exhibits far better political balance than its Left Coast conf. mates or IVY, Big Ten or most other large Institutions. They have established an acclaimed school on independent thought and free speech. It has done an excellent job of bringing in speakers of all political persuasions, sometimes amid protests. I've switched my annual ASU contributions to this school. ASU is blessed with an exceptional president, Michael Crow.

https://scetl.asu.edu/
 
Recently met a young lady who is a junior physical therapy major at Northern Arizona University. She was telling me about taking a course at NAU entitled "Capitalism". As we discussed what kinds of topics were being taught in that course, and after asking her many questions about it, here is the bottom line that the professor was advocating.

The general theme from this prof is that capitalism is bad, and communism is better. He made them write a paper on Karl Marx, then used that theme to indoctrinate them about the virtues of Marxism.

Two of her best friends took the class with her, and both left that class believing the United States should convert to Communism. She was not there mentally yet, but admitted that the class changed her views regarding capitalism and the distribution of wealth in a capitalistic society. The prof conveniently failed to explain that the distribution of wealth in Communist countries is even MORE SKEWED to the top 1% of its population.

This is a perfect example of the systemic socialist indoctrination of our college students today. They exit college as socialist zombies, unable to understand that the distribution of wealth by the leaders in Communist countries is actually worse than in our capitalistic society. In Russia, China, Venezuela, and Cuba, the oligarchs running those countries control almost all of the wealth, while the commoners gravel for scraps. It is no mystery why nobody is trying to crash the borders of Cuba and Venezuela to live there.

The siren's song of a "level playing field" is used to indoctrinate the weak-minded. They are too young, and too easily indoctrinated, because of their lack of understanding of how the real world functions. One common failure of the young, is a failure to study the history of societies, in which they would learn that every society in the history of mankind has had a caste strata within its society, with the vast majority of wealth being controlled by only a few at the top. History repeats itself.
 
uptopgriz said:
mthoopsfan said:
Montana probably has some bad profs too. Just into DEI and woke.

Arizona State University is among the fastest growing in America, its also regarded as one of the most liberal public Universities. Go figure, people want their kids to be well-rounded human-beings that have empathy for others.

ASU is nowhere as liberal as The University of Montana. They don't refer to Montana as "the Berkeley of the Northwest" without reason.

Oh, and I thought you and I were just the same poster using multiple screen names???
 
thirdandlong said:
Recently met a young lady who is a junior physical therapy major at Northern Arizona University. She was telling me about taking a course at NAU entitled "Capitalism". As we discussed what kinds of topics were being taught in that course, and after asking her many questions about it, here is the bottom line that the professor was advocating.

The general theme from this prof is that capitalism is bad, and communism is better. He made them write a paper on Karl Marx, then used that theme to indoctrinate them about the virtues of Marxism.

Two of her best friends took the class with her, and both left that class believing the United States should convert to Communism. She was not there mentally yet, but admitted that the class changed her views regarding capitalism and the distribution of wealth in a capitalistic society. The prof conveniently failed to explain that the distribution of wealth in Communist countries is even MORE SKEWED to the top 1% of its population.

This is a perfect example of the systemic socialist indoctrination of our college students today. They exit college as socialist zombies, unable to understand that the distribution of wealth by the leaders in Communist countries is actually worse than in our capitalistic society. In Russia, China, Venezuela, and Cuba, the oligarchs running those countries control almost all of the wealth, while the commoners gravel for scraps. It is no mystery why nobody is trying to crash the borders of Cuba and Venezuela to live there.

The siren's song of a "level playing field" is used to indoctrinate the weak-minded. They are too young, and too easily indoctrinated, because of their lack of understanding of how the real world functions. One common failure of the young, is a failure to study the history of societies, in which they would learn that every society in the history of mankind has had a caste strata within its society, with the vast majority of wealth being controlled by only a few at the top. History repeats itself.

I will take "this never happened for 1000" Alex. No class listed in NAU catalog. And you think that if this was really happening the Kari Lake folks and conservative media wouldn't be all over it? And you don't think that any 20 year old would research Karl Marx and not find all the flaws with his theories? Besides the fact that Physical Therapy is not an undergraduate degree program.
 
thirdandlong said:
uptopgriz said:
Arizona State University is among the fastest growing in America, its also regarded as one of the most liberal public Universities. Go figure, people want their kids to be well-rounded human-beings that have empathy for others.

ASU is nowhere as liberal as The University of Montana. They don't refer to Montana as "the Berkeley of the Northwest" without reason.

Oh, and I thought you and I were just the same poster using multiple screen names???

And ASU is among the fastest growing because they accept something like 88% of all applicants. They are the "safety school" for a SHIT load of people.
 
UncleRico said:
thirdandlong said:
Recently met a young lady who is a junior physical therapy major at Northern Arizona University. She was telling me about taking a course at NAU entitled "Capitalism". As we discussed what kinds of topics were being taught in that course, and after asking her many questions about it, here is the bottom line that the professor was advocating.

The general theme from this prof is that capitalism is bad, and communism is better. He made them write a paper on Karl Marx, then used that theme to indoctrinate them about the virtues of Marxism.

Two of her best friends took the class with her, and both left that class believing the United States should convert to Communism. She was not there mentally yet, but admitted that the class changed her views regarding capitalism and the distribution of wealth in a capitalistic society. The prof conveniently failed to explain that the distribution of wealth in Communist countries is even MORE SKEWED to the top 1% of its population.

This is a perfect example of the systemic socialist indoctrination of our college students today. They exit college as socialist zombies, unable to understand that the distribution of wealth by the leaders in Communist countries is actually worse than in our capitalistic society. In Russia, China, Venezuela, and Cuba, the oligarchs running those countries control almost all of the wealth, while the commoners gravel for scraps. It is no mystery why nobody is trying to crash the borders of Cuba and Venezuela to live there.

The siren's song of a "level playing field" is used to indoctrinate the weak-minded. They are too young, and too easily indoctrinated, because of their lack of understanding of how the real world functions. One common failure of the young, is a failure to study the history of societies, in which they would learn that every society in the history of mankind has had a caste strata within its society, with the vast majority of wealth being controlled by only a few at the top. History repeats itself.

I will take "this never happened for 1000" Alex. No class listed in NAU catalog. And you think that if this was really happening the Kari Lake folks and conservative media wouldn't be all over it? And you don't think that any 20 year old would research Karl Marx and not find all the flaws with his theories? Besides the fact that Physical Therapy is not an undergraduate degree program.

Plus, any 20yo college student should be able to write any paper for his or her audience without adopting the views. I had a soft science humanities elective at UM, maybe it was sociology or something. Anyway, I can’t remember the name of the course because the prof was an admitted socialist who thought we should all revolt, and that was basically the class. Did I agree? Not at all. Did my papers in that class read like I agreed? 100%.

If a student is unable to hold that separation, well, maybe see my previous posts in this thread.
 
thirdandlong said:
uptopgriz said:
Arizona State University is among the fastest growing in America, its also regarded as one of the most liberal public Universities. Go figure, people want their kids to be well-rounded human-beings that have empathy for others.

ASU is nowhere as liberal as The University of Montana. They don't refer to Montana as "the Berkeley of the Northwest" without reason.

Oh, and I thought you and I were just the same poster using multiple screen names???

Definitely a nickname coined by people who haven’t been to Berkeley lately. You’re way more likely to see robotic food delivery pods than protests.
 
thirdandlong said:
Recently met a young lady who is a junior physical therapy major at Northern Arizona University. She was telling me about taking a course at NAU entitled "Capitalism". As we discussed what kinds of topics were being taught in that course, and after asking her many questions about it, here is the bottom line that the professor was advocating.

The general theme from this prof is that capitalism is bad, and communism is better. He made them write a paper on Karl Marx, then used that theme to indoctrinate them about the virtues of Marxism.

Two of her best friends took the class with her, and both left that class believing the United States should convert to Communism. She was not there mentally yet, but admitted that the class changed her views regarding capitalism and the distribution of wealth in a capitalistic society. The prof conveniently failed to explain that the distribution of wealth in Communist countries is even MORE SKEWED to the top 1% of its population.

This is a perfect example of the systemic socialist indoctrination of our college students today. They exit college as socialist zombies, unable to understand that the distribution of wealth by the leaders in Communist countries is actually worse than in our capitalistic society. In Russia, China, Venezuela, and Cuba, the oligarchs running those countries control almost all of the wealth, while the commoners gravel for scraps. It is no mystery why nobody is trying to crash the borders of Cuba and Venezuela to live there.

The siren's song of a "level playing field" is used to indoctrinate the weak-minded. They are too young, and too easily indoctrinated, because of their lack of understanding of how the real world functions. One common failure of the young, is a failure to study the history of societies, in which they would learn that every society in the history of mankind has had a caste strata within its society, with the vast majority of wealth being controlled by only a few at the top. History repeats itself.
Can you imagine if this had really happened instead of just being some BS you pulled out of your ass? Wow that would really be something...but it didn't, so it isn't.
 
SaskGriz said:
'...being some BS you pulled out of your ass...

Third, some are fact checking you, so you'll have to be more inventive. Attention to details.
Based solely on the length, man, that had to hurt.
 
SaskGriz said:
thirdandlong said:
Recently met a young lady who is a junior physical therapy major at Northern Arizona University. She was telling me about taking a course at NAU entitled "Capitalism". As we discussed what kinds of topics were being taught in that course, and after asking her many questions about it, here is the bottom line that the professor was advocating.

The general theme from this prof is that capitalism is bad, and communism is better. He made them write a paper on Karl Marx, then used that theme to indoctrinate them about the virtues of Marxism.

Two of her best friends took the class with her, and both left that class believing the United States should convert to Communism. She was not there mentally yet, but admitted that the class changed her views regarding capitalism and the distribution of wealth in a capitalistic society. The prof conveniently failed to explain that the distribution of wealth in Communist countries is even MORE SKEWED to the top 1% of its population.

This is a perfect example of the systemic socialist indoctrination of our college students today. They exit college as socialist zombies, unable to understand that the distribution of wealth by the leaders in Communist countries is actually worse than in our capitalistic society. In Russia, China, Venezuela, and Cuba, the oligarchs running those countries control almost all of the wealth, while the commoners gravel for scraps. It is no mystery why nobody is trying to crash the borders of Cuba and Venezuela to live there.

The siren's song of a "level playing field" is used to indoctrinate the weak-minded. They are too young, and too easily indoctrinated, because of their lack of understanding of how the real world functions. One common failure of the young, is a failure to study the history of societies, in which they would learn that every society in the history of mankind has had a caste strata within its society, with the vast majority of wealth being controlled by only a few at the top. History repeats itself.
Can you imagine if this had really happened instead of just being some BS you pulled out of your ass? Wow that would really be something...but it didn't, so it isn't.

It's like one of those social media posts where some mom says her toddler asked her about the wage gap on the subway and then everyone stood up and clapped. Google "Ruthkanda tweet" for reference.
 
AZGrizFan said:
And ASU is among the fastest growing because they accept something like 88% of all applicants. They are the "safety school" for a poop load of people.

Maybe UM should up its acceptance rate from 82% to 88%. It could put an end to the enrollment problem.
 
SaskGriz said:
thirdandlong said:
Recently met a young lady who is a junior physical therapy major at Northern Arizona University. She was telling me about taking a course at NAU entitled "Capitalism". As we discussed what kinds of topics were being taught in that course, and after asking her many questions about it, here is the bottom line that the professor was advocating.

The general theme from this prof is that capitalism is bad, and communism is better. He made them write a paper on Karl Marx, then used that theme to indoctrinate them about the virtues of Marxism.

Two of her best friends took the class with her, and both left that class believing the United States should convert to Communism. She was not there mentally yet, but admitted that the class changed her views regarding capitalism and the distribution of wealth in a capitalistic society. The prof conveniently failed to explain that the distribution of wealth in Communist countries is even MORE SKEWED to the top 1% of its population.

This is a perfect example of the systemic socialist indoctrination of our college students today. They exit college as socialist zombies, unable to understand that the distribution of wealth by the leaders in Communist countries is actually worse than in our capitalistic society. In Russia, China, Venezuela, and Cuba, the oligarchs running those countries control almost all of the wealth, while the commoners gravel for scraps. It is no mystery why nobody is trying to crash the borders of Cuba and Venezuela to live there.

The siren's song of a "level playing field" is used to indoctrinate the weak-minded. They are too young, and too easily indoctrinated, because of their lack of understanding of how the real world functions. One common failure of the young, is a failure to study the history of societies, in which they would learn that every society in the history of mankind has had a caste strata within its society, with the vast majority of wealth being controlled by only a few at the top. History repeats itself.
Can you imagine if this had really happened instead of just being some BS you pulled out of your ass? Wow that would really be something...but it didn't, so it isn't.

Look at the lefty socialists line-up to take shots at me. Glad you are identifying yourself as the losers that you are. I don't know the exact title of the class, but I assure you that it is an actual class, and this young lady recently took the class. We have a couple of left-coast wack-jobs, plus a socialist Canadian getting their panties in a wad. ROFL. All losers. None of you could make it in the private sector. Teachers??? Sociology majors? Fine arts? All losers.

It's high time you real American Griz fans posting on here stand up and be counted. These loonies are quick to blather their liberal B.S., and you need to man-up and be counted. This country is in shambles because of these pin heads. Don't allow their empty rhetoric to go un-challenged.
 
UncleRico said:
thirdandlong said:
Recently met a young lady who is a junior physical therapy major at Northern Arizona University. She was telling me about taking a course at NAU entitled "Capitalism". As we discussed what kinds of topics were being taught in that course, and after asking her many questions about it, here is the bottom line that the professor was advocating.

The general theme from this prof is that capitalism is bad, and communism is better. He made them write a paper on Karl Marx, then used that theme to indoctrinate them about the virtues of Marxism.

Two of her best friends took the class with her, and both left that class believing the United States should convert to Communism. She was not there mentally yet, but admitted that the class changed her views regarding capitalism and the distribution of wealth in a capitalistic society. The prof conveniently failed to explain that the distribution of wealth in Communist countries is even MORE SKEWED to the top 1% of its population.

This is a perfect example of the systemic socialist indoctrination of our college students today. They exit college as socialist zombies, unable to understand that the distribution of wealth by the leaders in Communist countries is actually worse than in our capitalistic society. In Russia, China, Venezuela, and Cuba, the oligarchs running those countries control almost all of the wealth, while the commoners gravel for scraps. It is no mystery why nobody is trying to crash the borders of Cuba and Venezuela to live there.

The siren's song of a "level playing field" is used to indoctrinate the weak-minded. They are too young, and too easily indoctrinated, because of their lack of understanding of how the real world functions. One common failure of the young, is a failure to study the history of societies, in which they would learn that every society in the history of mankind has had a caste strata within its society, with the vast majority of wealth being controlled by only a few at the top. History repeats itself.

I will take "this never happened for 1000" Alex. No class listed in NAU catalog. And you think that if this was really happening the Kari Lake folks and conservative media wouldn't be all over it? And you don't think that any 20 year old would research Karl Marx and not find all the flaws with his theories? Besides the fact that Physical Therapy is not an undergraduate degree program.

:lol: :lol: I couldn’t give two shits whether it happened or not, but you have a LOT more faith in 20-something’s than I do if you think they’re gonna do “research” to debunk Marxism…the vast majority of them get their news off of Tik Tok and Twitter…ain’t a lot of “deep thinkers” among them…at least not yet…
 
3-7-77 said:
SaskGriz said:
'...being some BS you pulled out of your ass...

Third, some are fact checking you, so you'll have to be more inventive. Attention to details.
Based solely on the length, man, that had to hurt.

Oh really? Obviously you are not too good at it:

POS 254 - Political Ideologies

Description: Political ideas and belief systems in theory and practice. Includes democracy, liberalism, conservatism, Marxism, democratic socialism, liberation, and green ideologies. Letter grade only.
 
CDAGRIZ said:
SaskGriz said:
Can you imagine if this had really happened instead of just being some BS you pulled out of your ass? Wow that would really be something...but it didn't, so it isn't.

It's like one of those social media posts where some mom says her toddler asked her about the wage gap on the subway and then everyone stood up and clapped. Google "Ruthkanda tweet" for reference.

Why stop in Canada, when Cuba has everything you dream about, comrade?
 
AZGrizFan said:
UncleRico said:
I will take "this never happened for 1000" Alex. No class listed in NAU catalog. And you think that if this was really happening the Kari Lake folks and conservative media wouldn't be all over it? And you don't think that any 20 year old would research Karl Marx and not find all the flaws with his theories? Besides the fact that Physical Therapy is not an undergraduate degree program.

:lol: :lol: I couldn’t give two poop whether it happened or not, but you have a LOT more faith in 20-something’s than I do if you think they’re gonna do “research” to debunk Marxism…the vast majority of them get their news off of Tik Tok and Twitter…ain’t a lot of “deep thinkers” among them…at least not yet…
I think I would have more faith in 20 year olds to do "research" than the "deep thinkers" in Arizona that still believe Kari Lake won.
 
thirdandlong said:
SaskGriz said:
Can you imagine if this had really happened instead of just being some BS you pulled out of your ass? Wow that would really be something...but it didn't, so it isn't.

Look at the lefty socialists line-up to take shots at me. Glad you are identifying yourself as the losers that you are. I don't know the exact title of the class, but I assure you that it is an actual class, and this young lady recently took the class. We have a couple of left-coast wack-jobs, plus a socialist Canadian getting their panties in a wad. ROFL. All losers. None of you could make it in the private sector. Teachers??? Sociology majors? Fine arts? All losers.

It's high time you real American Griz fans posting on here stand up and be counted. These loonies are quick to blather their liberal B.S., and you need to man-up and be counted. This country is in shambles because of these pin heads. Don't allow their empty rhetoric to go un-challenged.

Merica.
 
thirdandlong said:
CDAGRIZ said:
It's like one of those social media posts where some mom says her toddler asked her about the wage gap on the subway and then everyone stood up and clapped. Google "Ruthkanda tweet" for reference.

Why stop in Canada, when Cuba has everything you dream about, comrade?
What could this post possibly mean? Also as Uncle Rico pointed out; how did these two young Lumberjacks take a class which does exist, while enrolled in a program that doesn't exist? I know this isn't football related but I'm killing time before hitting the sack; I'm on a week long golf vacation from my six figure teaching job, the three extra paid days off courtesy of my union. ;)
 
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