UND to the MVFC?

[UNDfan]

The WAC lost its FBS status. So if it offers football again it will be FCS.

Egriz is as usual seriously misinformed.

WAC officials have confirmed that the WAC can still give out FBS invites. The contractor report that Idaho purchased when Idaho needed an independent opinion confirmed for an FCS move specifically stated that a WAC FBS league is still possible. The NCAA rule book states that any league that was once FBS can give out FBS invites, not just current FBS leagues.

The MVC, Southern, Southland, OVC and the Big West were once 1A football leagues, not FBS, so they cannot grant FBS invites. The term FBS was only granted in the last decade.

Montana wouldn't get an invite from the MWC or even be allowed by the Montana Board, as you have too small a budget for their tastes and the MWC doesn't want two Montanas. Either take the WAC FBS offer and grow your budget and add sports to get to 16 or suck eggs with NDSU at FCS.

 

[EverettGriz]

Holy hell you are delusional.

 

[UNDfan]

Holy hell you are delusional.

At least I don't choice to be misinformed.

BTW, Hell isn't Holy, which is another example of misinformation here.

 

[PlayerRep]

Holy hell you are delusional.

At least I don't choice to be misinformed.

BTW, Hell isn't Holy, which is another example of misinformation here.

You are obviously misinformed on budgets, because Montana has a larger athletic budget than almost all of the MV conference schools. According to this link for 2014-15, UM was $23.8 million, and MSU was $18.8 million. Ill st. was $26 million, Mo. St. and So. Ill were $25 million, NDSU $22.3 million, No. Iowa $19.8 million, SDS, $16.4, SD $14.7, Ind. St 14, West. Ill. $13.3.

http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances/

 

[poiuyter]

For a conference to be classified as an FBS conference, it needs 8 FBS schools. So you would need 8 current FBS schools to join the WAC.

20.02.6 "A conference classified as a Football Bowl Subdivision conference shall be comprised of at least eight full Football Bowl Subdivision members that satisfy all bowl subdivision requirements."

 

[UNDfan]

For a conference to be classified as an FBS conference, it needs 8 FBS schools. So you would need 8 current FBS schools to join the WAC.

20.02.6 "A conference classified as a Football Bowl Subdivision conference shall be comprised of at least eight full Football Bowl Subdivision members that satisfy all bowl subdivision requirements."

Wow. Someone from Egriz actually took the effort to look up NCAA rules. Congrats.

An FBS inviting conference is not the same as an FBS active conference that gets millions from the CFP.

 

[UNDfan]

Holy hell you are delusional.

At least I don't choice to be misinformed.

BTW, Hell isn't Holy, which is another example of misinformation here.

You are obviously misinformed on budgets, because Montana has a larger athletic budget than almost all of the MV conference schools. According to this link for 2014-15, UM was $23.8 million, and MSU was $18.8 million. Ill st. was $26 million, Mo. St. and So. Ill were $25 million, NDSU $22.3 million, No. Iowa $19.8 million, SDS, $16.4, SD $14.7, Ind. St 14, West. Ill. $13.3.

http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances/

Never said Montana would have any thing to do with the MVFC.

Montana simply doesn't have to budget to hang with the MWC, excepting Nevada and San Jose St.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Holy hell you are delusional.

At least I don't choice to be misinformed.

BTW, Hell isn't Holy, which is another example of misinformation here.

You are obviously misinformed on budgets, because Montana has a larger athletic budget than almost all of the MV conference schools. According to this link for 2014-15, UM was $23.8 million, and MSU was $18.8 million. Ill st. was $26 million, Mo. St. and So. Ill were $25 million, NDSU $22.3 million, No. Iowa $19.8 million, SDS, $16.4, SD $14.7, Ind. St 14, West. Ill. $13.3.

http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances/

Never said Montana would have any thing to do with the MVFC.

Montana simply doesn't have to budget to hang with the MWC, excepting Nevada and San Jose St.

Who are members of . . . which conference, again?

 

[UTGrizFan]

The WAC pipe dream will never happen, and regardless of having a small budget as mentioned the Griz and Cats would have one compatible with Nevada and San Jose State meaning that they would be a good fit for the MWC. However as neither school is discussing an FBS move anytime soon really we should focus on the implications for the Big Sky Conference and the MVFC if North Dakota were to move back.

If North Dakota were to move back it would give the Missouri Valley 11 football schools, considering that they already don't play every team in their conference during the regular season this wouldn't be a big deal. The Big Sky however would be in the situation it is in now with 13 teams for football and only 11 full-time conference members in other sports, which makes me wonder if the conference would be looking to add a 12th full time member which is rather plausible considering the fact they are currently at 12 right now. That means the Big Sky would have to look for a potential D2 team to move up, convince San Diego to join the conference or have a team like New Mexico State drop down to FCS which seems rather unlikely.

 

[Obzerver]

There has been a rumor for a long time that UND would have a huge donation for an on campus remodeled stadium from a former football player who started a gold mine in Canada, sold it for billions, and has his own Caribbean island where he lives part time.

E Wash is planning to build a new stadium now, as they want to keep up with the Montanas. Idaho will drop down for a time and then go back up.

UNDfan is onto something we only thought we were privy to; 1) EWU has been looking for an alum who has started a platinum mine but nobody knows where to look. We did have a teacher who was thrown off a cruise ship and now lives on a deserted Caribbean Island off the Washington coast. 2) We do have alums Colin Cowherd and Todd McFarlane (of Spawn fame) who are both sport fanatics willing to build a new stadium since Gateway Gate has failed. 3) Nothing new in that we always have to try and keep up with the Montana's. 4) Idaho will drop down for a time and then go back up but will also go back down again and then go back up again. 5) Roos will continue giving us the red fields which will match nicely with McFarlane's new line of sportswear as he is expanding his empire. Here's just one example of new Football uni's:

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

Holy hell you are delusional.

At least I don't choice to be misinformed.

BTW, Hell isn't Holy, which is another example of misinformation here.

You are obviously misinformed on budgets, because Montana has a larger athletic budget than almost all of the MV conference schools. According to this link for 2014-15, UM was $23.8 million, and MSU was $18.8 million. Ill st. was $26 million, Mo. St. and So. Ill were $25 million, NDSU $22.3 million, No. Iowa $19.8 million, SDS, $16.4, SD $14.7, Ind. St 14, West. Ill. $13.3.

http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances/

Never said Montana would have any thing to do with the MVFC.

Montana simply doesn't have to budget to hang with the MWC, excepting Nevada and San Jose St.

After the champions center is built Montana will already have nicer facilities than 95% of the mountain west schools.....to state that Montana couldn't hang is just ridiculous.

 

[UNDfan]

At least I don't choice to be misinformed.

BTW, Hell isn't Holy, which is another example of misinformation here.

You are obviously misinformed on budgets, because Montana has a larger athletic budget than almost all of the MV conference schools. According to this link for 2014-15, UM was $23.8 million, and MSU was $18.8 million. Ill st. was $26 million, Mo. St. and So. Ill were $25 million, NDSU $22.3 million, No. Iowa $19.8 million, SDS, $16.4, SD $14.7, Ind. St 14, West. Ill. $13.3.

http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances/

Never said Montana would have any thing to do with the MVFC.

Montana simply doesn't have to budget to hang with the MWC, excepting Nevada and San Jose St.

After the champions center is built Montana will already have nicer facilities than 95% of the mountain west schools.....to state that Montana couldn't hang is just ridiculous.

Most of the MWC schools have athletic budgets more than $40 mill. Even Wyoming had $32.3 Mill last year. Nevada, SJSU, and Utah St are the poor men of that conference, with budgets in the high $20's.

This board is as delusional as NDSU's. The MWC would take Texas teams (like UTEP, Rice, UTSA, or North Texas) or even UC Davis if it gets an upgrade in their stadium seating as Davis has the stellar academics and a media market that Presidents want. NDSU and the Griz won't even get a sniff.

 

[Ursa Major]

You are obviously misinformed on budgets, because Montana has a larger athletic budget than almost all of the MV conference schools. According to this link for 2014-15, UM was $23.8 million, and MSU was $18.8 million. Ill st. was $26 million, Mo. St. and So. Ill were $25 million, NDSU $22.3 million, No. Iowa $19.8 million, SDS, $16.4, SD $14.7, Ind. St 14, West. Ill. $13.3.

http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances/

Never said Montana would have any thing to do with the MVFC.

Montana simply doesn't have to budget to hang with the MWC, excepting Nevada and San Jose St.

After the champions center is built Montana will already have nicer facilities than 95% of the mountain west schools.....to state that Montana couldn't hang is just ridiculous.

Most of the MWC schools have athletic budgets more than $40 mill. Even Wyoming had $32.3 Mill last year. Nevada, SJSU, and Utah St are the poor men of that conference, with budgets in the high $20's.

This board is as delusional as NDSU's. The MWC would take Texas teams (like UTEP, Rice, UTSA, or North Texas) or even UC Davis if it gets an upgrade in their stadium seating as Davis has the stellar academics and a media market that Presidents want. NDSU and the Griz won't even get a sniff.

Godspeed in the New WAC!

I can only imagine UND's 2021 inaugural year in WAC football. I'll go on record to predict the first season's 7-1 results.

CSU* @ UND *Disqualified for lack of a football program Win
Utah Valley* VS UND *Disqualified for lack of a football program Win
Chicago State* @ UND *Disqualified for lack of a football program Win
Rio Grande Valley* VS UND *Disqualified for lack of a football program Win
Grand Canyon* @ UND *Disqualified for lack of a football program Win
Seattle U* @ UND *Disqualified for lack of a football program Win
U. of Missouri, Kansas City* VS UND *Disqualified for lack of a football program Win
New Mexico State @ UND 36-3 Loss

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

You are obviously misinformed on budgets, because Montana has a larger athletic budget than almost all of the MV conference schools. According to this link for 2014-15, UM was $23.8 million, and MSU was $18.8 million. Ill st. was $26 million, Mo. St. and So. Ill were $25 million, NDSU $22.3 million, No. Iowa $19.8 million, SDS, $16.4, SD $14.7, Ind. St 14, West. Ill. $13.3.

http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances/

Never said Montana would have any thing to do with the MVFC.

Montana simply doesn't have to budget to hang with the MWC, excepting Nevada and San Jose St.

After the champions center is built Montana will already have nicer facilities than 95% of the mountain west schools.....to state that Montana couldn't hang is just ridiculous.

Most of the MWC schools have athletic budgets more than $40 mill. Even Wyoming had $32.3 Mill last year. Nevada, SJSU, and Utah St are the poor men of that conference, with budgets in the high $20's.

This board is as delusional as NDSU's. The MWC would take Texas teams (like UTEP, Rice, UTSA, or North Texas) or even UC Davis if it gets an upgrade in their stadium seating as Davis has the stellar academics and a media market that Presidents want. NDSU and the Griz won't even get a sniff.

If you think the WAC would preffer any of those texas programs over Montana..you are the delusional one.....

I live 20 minutes from the North Texas campus....people couldnt give a damn about the Mean Green....and that will never change....in this football crazy market people hardly get up in the morning to watch SMU....TCU is all that matters....

But keep trying...UND should fit in perfectly into the WAC.....we literally just finished building an indoor high school facility which is head to toe better than the Allerus barn your program calls home.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

The odds of the Griz joining the MW are pretty much the same as them joining the WAC. (zero for you that can't figure it out)

 

[UNDfan]

Never said Montana would have any thing to do with the MVFC.

Montana simply doesn't have to budget to hang with the MWC, excepting Nevada and San Jose St.

After the champions center is built Montana will already have nicer facilities than 95% of the mountain west schools.....to state that Montana couldn't hang is just ridiculous.

Most of the MWC schools have athletic budgets more than $40 mill. Even Wyoming had $32.3 Mill last year. Nevada, SJSU, and Utah St are the poor men of that conference, with budgets in the high $20's.

This board is as delusional as NDSU's. The MWC would take Texas teams (like UTEP, Rice, UTSA, or North Texas) or even UC Davis if it gets an upgrade in their stadium seating as Davis has the stellar academics and a media market that Presidents want. NDSU and the Griz won't even get a sniff.

Godspeed in the New WAC!

I can only imagine UND's 2021 inaugural year in WAC football. I'll go on record to predict the first season's 7-1 results.

CSU* @ UND *Disqualified for lack of a football program Win
Utah Valley* VS UND *Disqualified for lack of a football program Win
Chicago State* @ UND *Disqualified for lack of a football program Win
Rio Grande Valley* VS UND *Disqualified for lack of a football program Win
Grand Canyon* @ UND *Disqualified for lack of a football program Win
Seattle U* @ UND *Disqualified for lack of a football program Win
U. of Missouri, Kansas City* VS UND *Disqualified for lack of a football program Win
New Mexico State @ UND 36-3 Loss

LOL

UTRGV has Mack Brown as head of their committee to start football.

Montana St will be part of it, because Cruzado actually has balls, unlike Griz administrators.

With the change in leagues, UND is evaluating which sports to drop. We had to add men's tennis to comply with Big Sky core sports. Why do Big Sky schools force tennis on each OTHER? A pricey sport with most foreign students on scholarship and no revenue. Drop tennis and go with team sports.

The Big Sky Presidents are meeting again in September. Is that unusual to meet then? A major announcement may be coming. They just met in June.

 

[UNDfan]

Never said Montana would have any thing to do with the MVFC.

Montana simply doesn't have to budget to hang with the MWC, excepting Nevada and San Jose St.

After the champions center is built Montana will already have nicer facilities than 95% of the mountain west schools.....to state that Montana couldn't hang is just ridiculous.

Most of the MWC schools have athletic budgets more than $40 mill. Even Wyoming had $32.3 Mill last year. Nevada, SJSU, and Utah St are the poor men of that conference, with budgets in the high $20's.

This board is as delusional as NDSU's. The MWC would take Texas teams (like UTEP, Rice, UTSA, or North Texas) or even UC Davis if it gets an upgrade in their stadium seating as Davis has the stellar academics and a media market that Presidents want. NDSU and the Griz won't even get a sniff.

If you think the WAC would preffer any of those texas programs over Montana..you are the delusional one.....

I live 20 minutes from the North Texas campus....people couldnt give a damn about the Mean Green....and that will never change....in this football crazy market people hardly get up in the morning to watch SMU....TCU is all that matters....

But keep trying...UND should fit in perfectly into the WAC.....we literally just finished building an indoor high school facility which is head to toe better than the Allerus barn your program calls home.

Ever heard of the Cowboys? A team that keeps losing but the fans pay big bucks anyway just to be seen.

As I said, we would need an on campus donates stadium to go FBS.

 

[mcg]

You are obviously misinformed on budgets, because Montana has a larger athletic budget than almost all of the MV conference schools. According to this link for 2014-15, UM was $23.8 million, and MSU was $18.8 million. Ill st. was $26 million, Mo. St. and So. Ill were $25 million, NDSU $22.3 million, No. Iowa $19.8 million, SDS, $16.4, SD $14.7, Ind. St 14, West. Ill. $13.3.

http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances/

Never said Montana would have any thing to do with the MVFC.

Montana simply doesn't have to budget to hang with the MWC, excepting Nevada and San Jose St.

After the champions center is built Montana will already have nicer facilities than 95% of the mountain west schools.....to state that Montana couldn't hang is just ridiculous.

Most of the MWC schools have athletic budgets more than $40 mill. Even Wyoming had $32.3 Mill last year. Nevada, SJSU, and Utah St are the poor men of that conference, with budgets in the high $20's.

This board is as delusional as NDSU's. The MWC would take Texas teams (like UTEP, Rice, UTSA, or North Texas) or even UC Davis if it gets an upgrade in their stadium seating as Davis has the stellar academics and a media market that Presidents want. NDSU and the Griz won't even get a sniff.

Colorado State's athletic budget is about $25 million.

 

[UNDfan]

Never said Montana would have any thing to do with the MVFC.

Montana simply doesn't have to budget to hang with the MWC, excepting Nevada and San Jose St.

After the champions center is built Montana will already have nicer facilities than 95% of the mountain west schools.....to state that Montana couldn't hang is just ridiculous.

Most of the MWC schools have athletic budgets more than $40 mill. Even Wyoming had $32.3 Mill last year. Nevada, SJSU, and Utah St are the poor men of that conference, with budgets in the high $20's.

This board is as delusional as NDSU's. The MWC would take Texas teams (like UTEP, Rice, UTSA, or North Texas) or even UC Davis if it gets an upgrade in their stadium seating as Davis has the stellar academics and a media market that Presidents want. NDSU and the Griz won't even get a sniff.

Colorado State's athletic budget is about $25 million.

CSU had athletic revenue of $38 mill last year. As usual Egriz is wrong, unless your back in 2008 time frame which this board seems to be.

 

[Ursa Major]

After the champions center is built Montana will already have nicer facilities than 95% of the mountain west schools.....to state that Montana couldn't hang is just ridiculous.

Most of the MWC schools have athletic budgets more than $40 mill. Even Wyoming had $32.3 Mill last year. Nevada, SJSU, and Utah St are the poor men of that conference, with budgets in the high $20's.

This board is as delusional as NDSU's. The MWC would take Texas teams (like UTEP, Rice, UTSA, or North Texas) or even UC Davis if it gets an upgrade in their stadium seating as Davis has the stellar academics and a media market that Presidents want. NDSU and the Griz won't even get a sniff.

Godspeed in the New WAC!

I can only imagine UND's 2021 inaugural year in WAC football. I'll go on record to predict the first season's 7-1 results.

CSU* @ UND *Disqualified for lack of a football program Win
Utah Valley* VS UND *Disqualified for lack of a football program Win
Chicago State* @ UND *Disqualified for lack of a football program Win
Rio Grande Valley* VS UND *Disqualified for lack of a football program Win
Grand Canyon* @ UND *Disqualified for lack of a football program Win
Seattle U* @ UND *Disqualified for lack of a football program Win
U. of Missouri, Kansas City* VS UND *Disqualified for lack of a football program Win
New Mexico State @ UND 36-3 Loss

LOL

UTRGV has Mack Brown as head of their committee to start football.

Montana St will be part of it, because Cruzado actually has balls, unlike Griz administrators.

With the change in leagues, UND is evaluating which sports to drop. We had to add men's tennis to comply with Big Sky core sports. Why do Big Sky schools force tennis on each OTHER? A pricey sport with most foreign students on scholarship and no revenue. Drop tennis and go with team sports.

The Big Sky Presidents are meeting again in September. Is that unusual to meet then? A major announcement may be coming. They just met in June.

I understand that Rio Grande Valley has hired Otto Graham and the frozen head of Walt Disney to "head" up their committee to start football. That's not chopped liver!