Bobby - on paper

[RoseyMustGo]

I’ve been curious who these young kids who just created accounts and weren’t around in the first Hauck era would hire if we fired the whole staff right now. What coaches are available that you would hire? What do you think that would do to the current roster? Believe it or not these guys want to play here for Bobby Hauck. They would already be in the portal if they didn’t.

If I were the AD, I would conduct a REAL national search to fill the head coaching job. He would be a younger coach from a successful FBS program, preferably one who has been the recruiting coordinator and has developed strong relationships with high school coaches. He would have aspirations to use the Montana job as a way of being extremely successful, then making the jump to an FBS head job. I want him to be hungry, instead of coming here to coast for a number of years prior to retirement.

Several posters have commented that Bobby 2.0 seems to lack the fire that 1.0 had, and even seems to accept losing as being O.K. I think the entire coaching staff, with a couple of exceptions, are just coasting to retirement. And it shows in recruiting. The RTD sham, is just a way to mollify a fan base.

 

[uofmman1122]

I’ve been curious who these young kids who just created accounts and weren’t around in the first Hauck era would hire if we fired the whole staff right now. What coaches are available that you would hire? What do you think that would do to the current roster? Believe it or not these guys want to play here for Bobby Hauck. They would already be in the portal if they didn’t.

If I were the AD, I would conduct a REAL national search to fill the head coaching job. He would be a younger coach from a successful FBS program, preferably one who has been the recruiting coordinator and has developed strong relationships with high school coaches. He would have aspirations to use the Montana job as a way of being extremely successful, then making the jump to an FBS head job. I want him to be hungry, instead of coming here to coast for a number of years prior to retirement.

I think this is the entire point of WaGriz's post.

Be specific. Who would you hire? You spend a shit ton of time on this site diagnosing all the problems with Bobby, so I assume you have some time to do a little research and get back to us.

 

[AZGrizFan]

If I were the AD, I would conduct a REAL national search to fill the head coaching job. He would be a younger coach from a successful FBS program, preferably one who has been the recruiting coordinator and has developed strong relationships with high school coaches. He would have aspirations to use the Montana job as a way of being extremely successful, then making the jump to an FBS head job. I want him to be hungry, instead of coming here to coast for a number of years prior to retirement.

I think this is the entire point of WaGriz's post.

Be specific. Who would you hire? You spend a shit ton of time on this site diagnosing all the problems with Bobby, so I assume you have some time to do a little research and get back to us.

Doesn’t the U employ someone whose responsibility that is? I’d be happy to do it for a big fat finder’s fee, but this guy doesn’t work for free.

 

[uofmman1122]

I think this is the entire point of WaGriz's post.

Be specific. Who would you hire? You spend a shit ton of time on this site diagnosing all the problems with Bobby, so I assume you have some time to do a little research and get back to us.

Doesn’t the U employ someone whose responsibility that is? I’d be happy to do it for a big fat finder’s fee, but this guy doesn’t work for free.

I would even accept just a small list of guys he thinks would be good candidates. I'm not asking him to do the hiring process, but it's incredibly easy to go into every thread screaming "fire that dumbass" every single day for weeks. It adds nothing. If he's serious about firing Bobby, then asking him to be serious about who he wants to see replace him shouldn't be an unreasonable ask.

Plus, then it's a constructive, interesting discussion, instead of the mindless arguing and name calling that's been going on here lately. :lol:

 

[AZGrizFan]

Doesn’t the U employ someone whose responsibility that is? I’d be happy to do it for a big fat finder’s fee, but this guy doesn’t work for free.

I would even accept just a small list of guys he thinks would be good candidates. I'm not asking him to do the hiring process, but it's incredibly easy to go into every thread screaming "fire that dumbass" every single day for weeks. It adds nothing. If he's serious about firing Bobby, then asking him to be serious about who he wants to see replace him shouldn't be an unreasonable ask.

Plus, then it's a constructive, interesting discussion, instead of the mindless arguing and name calling that's been going on here lately. :lol:

“I may not be able to define pornography, but I know it when I see it.” I may not be able to define mediocre coaching, but I know it when I see it. That doesn’t make me an expert on all the individuals out there who might be better qualified to led this team. Defining mediocrity and identifying failure to meet their OWN expectations doesn’t make one an expert on who the “solution” is. Again, there are people paid big bucks to identify the failure AND identify the solution. As pedestrian fans who’ve never played the game it’s not our responsibility.

Our responsibility is to piss and moan until change is made.

 

[grizghost]

I’ve been curious who these young kids who just created accounts and weren’t around in the first Hauck era would hire if we fired the whole staff right now. What coaches are available that you would hire? What do you think that would do to the current roster? Believe it or not these guys want to play here for Bobby Hauck. They would already be in the portal if they didn’t.

If I were the AD, I would conduct a REAL national search to fill the head coaching job. He would be a younger coach from a successful FBS program, preferably one who has been the recruiting coordinator and has developed strong relationships with high school coaches. He would have aspirations to use the Montana job as a way of being extremely successful, then making the jump to an FBS head job. I want him to be hungry, instead of coming here to coast for a number of years prior to retirement.

Several posters have commented that Bobby 2.0 seems to lack the fire that 1.0 had, and even seems to accept losing as being O.K. I think the entire coaching staff, with a couple of exceptions, are just coasting to retirement. And it shows in recruiting. The RTD sham, is just a way to mollify a fan base.

....good post... :thumb: ...I thought the young coach from Holy Cross was impressive...27 yr old OC...

 

[uofmman1122]

If I were the AD, I would conduct a REAL national search to fill the head coaching job. He would be a younger coach from a successful FBS program, preferably one who has been the recruiting coordinator and has developed strong relationships with high school coaches. He would have aspirations to use the Montana job as a way of being extremely successful, then making the jump to an FBS head job. I want him to be hungry, instead of coming here to coast for a number of years prior to retirement.

Several posters have commented that Bobby 2.0 seems to lack the fire that 1.0 had, and even seems to accept losing as being O.K. I think the entire coaching staff, with a couple of exceptions, are just coasting to retirement. And it shows in recruiting. The RTD sham, is just a way to mollify a fan base.

....good post... :thumb: ...I thought the young coach from Holy Cross was impressive...27 yr old OC...

You're thinking of Mack Leftwich from Incarnate Word. Chris Smith of Holy Cross is in his 30's, though.

 

[grizghost]

....good post... :thumb: ...I thought the young coach from Holy Cross was impressive...27 yr old OC...

You're thinking of Mack Leftwich from Incarnate Word. Chris Smith of Holy Cross is in his 30's, though.

:thumb:

 

[poorgriz]

Nope. I didn’t say that. The proof of the pudding with a qb is how they play in a game, and in a love scrimmage with full tackling. Qb’s are protected and don’t get hit in practices or scrimmages. Some qb’s look good in practices and scrimmages, but aren’t the same in games. If you had played the game or coached, you might know that.

Yep, and they're horrible at evaluating talent. Last year they put qb in against James Madison that wouldn't have played QB in the Frontier.

Why would anyone expect anything different? Bobby didn't play the game, and that shows with his coaching decisions... going 4-4 in conference play with supposedly excellent talent.

 

[kemajic]

Our responsibility is to piss and moan until change is made.

An area in which you're making enormous progress.

 

[kemajic]

If I were the AD,

Blessings that you aren't.

 

[mthoopsfan]

Yep, and they're horrible at evaluating talent. Last year they put qb in against James Madison that wouldn't have played QB in the Frontier.

M would anyone expect anything different? Bobby didn't play the game, and that shows with his coaching decisions... going 4-4 in conference play with supposedly excellent talent.

And will finish top 10-12 in nation.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Our responsibility is to piss and moan until change is made.

An area in which you're making enormous progress.

Thank you. Coming from the guy who threw a tantrum and promised to stop supporting Griz athletics until Stitt was fired I take that as a compliment.

 

[Fahque]

Yeah, it would be nice to go live in the past wouldn’t it. Maybe then we could win a big sky conference championship again ffs

Yeah there are so many coaches out there that could step in and go undefeated in the Big Sky every single year. We should fire one of the best coaches ever in the Big Sky because MSU is good now.

It has nothing to do with MSU being good now, it has more to do with us being horrible after year 5 but still, I don't think anybody here is calling for a head-coaching change but rather, for the head coach to grow a pair, make some coordinator changes, and to get with the times

 

[Fahque]

Why did they play him then in two of the most important games of the year? Once again, like you said about Vigen last year against the Griz. The coaches picked the QB.

Because he had gotten the second team reps, looked good in practice, and played pretty good at times last year. And Britt was a frosh, with few practices reps, and had not mastered some aspects of the offense. While Britt has talent and potential, he wasn’t ready this season. He threw a bunch of picks per throw. 3.5 as many as Johnson. Britt didn’t good in second half against Bison, until last drive. UM wasn’t going to beat Bison without Johnson playing and playing well.

You might as well add in Johnson's fumbles to his interceptions while you are at it… All your above post says is that the coaching staff failed to prepare the more talented quarterback to run the offense of scheme we run because he is a freshman and instead, relied on Brown who they should have known is not a mobile quarterback

 

[indiancoyote]

Sure you did. You said who can teach Brown to read stunts and then said he was a great practice player. The coaches are the ones that teach and evaluate. They failed miserably on all accounts. If the Griz had the same qbs as the Cats they both would be playing other positions because the Bully Bunch can't evaluate or develop talent.

Nope. I didn’t say that. The proof of the pudding with a qb is how they play in a game, and in a love scrimmage with full tackling. Qb’s are protected and don’t get hit in practices or scrimmages. Some qb’s look good in practices and scrimmages, but aren’t the same in games. If you had played the game or coached, you might know that.

Bobby is a dinosaur coach that has driven the Griz to mediocrity. 6th in the Big Sky after being picked to win it.

 

[mthoopsfan]

Yep, and they're horrible at evaluating talent. Last year they put qb in against James Madison that wouldn't have played QB in the Frontier.

Why would anyone expect anything different? Bobby didn't play the game, and that shows with his coaching decisions... going 4-4 in conference play with supposedly excellent talent.

Did Rosenbach, Pease and Green play the game? Compare to Cat offensive coaches.

 

[mthoopsfan]

Yeah there are so many coaches out there that could step in and go undefeated in the Big Sky every single year. We should fire one of the best coaches ever in the Big Sky because MSU is good now.

It has nothing to do with MSU being good now, it has more to do with us being horrible after year 5 but still, I don't think anybody here is calling for a head-coaching change but rather, for the head coach to grow a pair, make some coordinator changes, and to get with the times

Coordinators are not the problem.If they are, Hauck will change.

 

[PTGrizzly]

It has nothing to do with MSU being good now, it has more to do with us being horrible after year 5 but still, I don't think anybody here is calling for a head-coaching change but rather, for the head coach to grow a pair, make some coordinator changes, and to get with the times

Coordinators are not the problem.If they are, Hauck will change.

Is there a problem? If so, what is it, and who is responsible for it at the end of the day?

 

[AZGrizFan]

Why would anyone expect anything different? Bobby didn't play the game, and that shows with his coaching decisions... going 4-4 in conference play with supposedly excellent talent.

Did Rosenbach, Pease and Green play the game? Compare to Cat offensive coaches.

I think you’re disproving your own point.