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Covid Updates - Not Politics

AZGrizFan said:
argh! said:
agree, there shouldn't be any limits on what anybody can do by now, anyone at risk should be vaccinated, and anyone who is around an at risk person who for some reason can't be vaccinated should, too. not a supporter of breaking people into groups based on vaccination state, i.e. vaccine 'passports', although if that's what a private business wants to do, i'll respect it, just not use whatever they are trying to sell me.

American Airlines pilot yesterday started his speech with this: “Despite the fact the CDC has released additional guidance regarding the necessity of masks with vaccinations, FEDERAL LAW STILL REQUIRES masks in all airports and airplanes. Violation of this could result in removal from the airplane, and civil or criminal penalties.” So even he knew (and was willing to share) that the mask mandate is a f###[#] joke at this point, but there’s nothing he can do about it.

I have flown to Cabo, San Diego, Phoenix, Dallas, and Missoula twice in the the past six months. 18 legs of flights. Not ONCE was I told to put my mask back on, as long as I was eating or drinking something, until the flight into Missoula on Tuesday. Met my one and only “Karen” flight attendant on that Delta flight who expected me to pull my mask up in between sips from my soda. Other than that, the flight attendants essentially haven’t given a [#]f###.

And much like grocery stores and other places where people congregate, Airlines will probably require masks until a plane full of people decide, en masse, that they’re not going to comply and all take them off once the plane takes off. Do you REALLY think that plane is going to turn around?

if the people act like disrespectable d-bags, yes. if they talk to the flight crew et al calmly, and give their reasons, not using whiney, completely self-absorbed b.s., maybe not. it is still just a small inconvenience to wear a light surgical mask, though, no reason to get a crew fired over it.

part two, not directed at az, i will say that all the claims i hear about the u.s. turning into a dictatorship-like state under biden, which are the same sort of claims i heard by the left regarding trump, are ridiculous. i talk daily to people who either lived or live under the ccp, and others who grew up in 'soviet union' countries like east germany, poland, and russia, and they all laugh at the the idiocy of the comparisons. they are baffled at the reluctance to adopt some form of national health care, etc... based on claims of 'socialism'. the consensus of those in my non-scientific study of these people, is that they thought trump was much closer in behavior to dictators than biden. it's all just anecdotal, but i'm more inclined to believe them than some whiney old guy who has never lived in a 'communist' country.
 
argh! said:
AZGrizFan said:
American Airlines pilot yesterday started his speech with this: “Despite the fact the CDC has released additional guidance regarding the necessity of masks with vaccinations, FEDERAL LAW STILL REQUIRES masks in all TV airports and airplanes. Violation of this could result in removal from the airplane, and civil or criminal penalties.” So even he knew (and was willing to share) that the mask mandate is a f###[#] joke at this point, but there’s nothing he can do about it.

I have flown to Cabo, San Diego, Phoenix, Dallas, and Missoula twice in the the past six months. 18 legs of flights. Not ONCE was I told to put my mask back on, as long as I was eating or drinking something, until the flight into Missoula on Tuesday. Met my one and only “Karen” flight attendant on that Delta flight who expected me to pull my mask up in between sips from my soda. Other than that, the flight attendants essentially haven’t given a [#]f###.

And much like grocery stores and other places where people congregate, Airlines will probably require masks until a plane full of people decide, en masse, that they’re not going to comply and all take them off once the plane takes off. Do you REALLY think that plane is going to turn around?

if the people act like disrespectable d-bags, yes. if they talk to the flight crew et al calmly, and give their reasons, not using whiney, completely self-absorbed b.s., maybe not. it is still just a small inconvenience to wear a light surgical mask, though, no reason to get a crew fired over it.

part two, not directed at az, i will say that all the claims i hear about the u.s. turning into a dictatorship-like state under biden, which are the same sort of claims i heard by the left regarding trump, are ridiculous. i talk daily to people who either lived or live under the ccp, and others who grew up in 'soviet union' countries like east germany, poland, and russia, and they all laugh at the the idiocy of the comparisons. they are baffled at the reluctance to adopt some form of national health care, etc... based on claims of 'socialism'. the consensus of those in my non-scientific study of these people, is that they thought trump was much closer in behavior to dictators than biden. it's all just anecdotal, but i'm more inclined to believe them than some whiney old guy who has never lived in a 'communist' country.

I’m more inclined to think we are turning into no state under Biden. Trump cares about our country. Biden doesn’t.
 
Spanky2 said:
argh! said:
if the people act like disrespectable d-bags, yes. if they talk to the flight crew et al calmly, and give their reasons, not using whiney, completely self-absorbed b.s., maybe not. it is still just a small inconvenience to wear a light surgical mask, though, no reason to get a crew fired over it.

part two, not directed at az, i will say that all the claims i hear about the u.s. turning into a dictatorship-like state under biden, which are the same sort of claims i heard by the left regarding trump, are ridiculous. i talk daily to people who either lived or live under the ccp, and others who grew up in 'soviet union' countries like east germany, poland, and russia, and they all laugh at the the idiocy of the comparisons. they are baffled at the reluctance to adopt some form of national health care, etc... based on claims of 'socialism'. the consensus of those in my non-scientific study of these people, is that they thought trump was much closer in behavior to dictators than biden. it's all just anecdotal, but i'm more inclined to believe them than some whiney old guy who has never lived in a 'communist' country.

I’m more inclined to think we are turning into no state under Biden. Trump cares about our country. Biden doesn’t.

trump cares about trump. look at the number of people he's turned on for simply disagreeing with him. oh wait, you are in the cult, you won't. it is pointless to discuss this issue with cult members.
 
argh! said:
Spanky2 said:
I’m more inclined to think we are turning into no state under Biden. Trump cares about our country. Biden doesn’t.

trump cares about trump. look at the number of people he's turned on for simply disagreeing with him. oh wait, you are in the cult, you won't. it is pointless to discuss this issue with cult members.

Trump cares about the government which is a democracy. Biden, under the control of a group of let’s say advisers is moving our country toward anarchy, no government, no laws, no police departments. If they are successful, let’s see how you like it when they arrive at your front door.
 
Spanky2 said:
argh! said:
trump cares about trump. look at the number of people he's turned on for simply disagreeing with him. oh wait, you are in the cult, you won't. it is pointless to discuss this issue with cult members.

Trump cares about the government which is a democracy. Biden, under the control of a group of let’s say advisers is moving our country toward anarchy, no government, no laws, no police departments. If they are successful, let’s see how you like it when they arrive at your front door.

I suppose that is why he instructed his DOJ to go after political enemies. Trump cares about trump and getting others to pay for it, go ahead it's your money.
 
this is random, but i was just reading that to be the president of mongolia, the requirements are to have been born in mongolia, to be 45 years old, to have lived in mongolia the last five years, and... you have to resign from whatever political party you were associated with before running. what a great idea.
 
Mongolia, sandwiched between two Communist giants for years, now sandwiched between two large crime families. Argh knows how to make his analogies.
 
fanofzoo said:
Spanky2 said:
Trump cares about the government which is a democracy. Biden, under the control of a group of let’s say advisers is moving our country toward anarchy, no government, no laws, no police departments. If they are successful, let’s see how you like it when they arrive at your front door.

I suppose that is why he instructed his DOJ to go after political enemies. Trump cares about trump and getting others to pay for it, go ahead it's your money.

Good grief; clueless post here.
 
3-7-77 said:
Mongolia, sandwiched between two Communist giants for years, now sandwiched between two large crime families. Argh knows how to make his analogies.
And the political parties are not akin to crime families? Lolol
 
SoldierGriz said:
fanofzoo said:
I suppose that is why he instructed his DOJ to go after political enemies. Trump cares about trump and getting others to pay for it, go ahead it's your money.

Good grief; clueless post here.

I think we are learning more everyday with the release of more evidence/papers from the former administration how corrupt it was. It will be interesting to finally see what Trump talked to Putin about in Helsinki. That was the summit where Trumps people seized all of the interpreters notes. Why do you think they did that and as a military guy what was your impression about how the Vindman brothers military careers were dealt with?
 
Jesse said:
SoldierGriz said:
Good grief; clueless post here.

I think we are learning more everyday with the release of more evidence/papers from the former administration how corrupt it was. It will be interesting to finally see what Trump talked to Putin about in Helsinki. That was the summit where Trumps people seized all of the interpreters notes. Why do you think they did that and as a military guy what was your impression about how the Vindman brothers military careers were dealt with?
The Trump Administration Corrupt? Now that is funny given the current gangster in office!
 
:roll:
Spanky2 said:
argh! said:
if the people act like disrespectable d-bags, yes. if they talk to the flight crew et al calmly, and give their reasons, not using whiney, completely self-absorbed b.s., maybe not. it is still just a small inconvenience to wear a light surgical mask, though, no reason to get a crew fired over it.

part two, not directed at az, i will say that all the claims i hear about the u.s. turning into a dictatorship-like state under biden, which are the same sort of claims i heard by the left regarding trump, are ridiculous. i talk daily to people who either lived or live under the ccp, and others who grew up in 'soviet union' countries like east germany, poland, and russia, and they all laugh at the the idiocy of the comparisons. they are baffled at the reluctance to adopt some form of national health care, etc... based on claims of 'socialism'. the consensus of those in my non-scientific study of these people, is that they thought trump was much closer in behavior to dictators than biden. it's all just anecdotal, but i'm more inclined to believe them than some whiney old guy who has never lived in a 'communist' country.

I’m more inclined to think we are turning into no state under Biden. Trump cares about our country. Biden doesn’t.
 
GrizLA said:
:roll:
Spanky2 said:
I’m more inclined to think we are turning into no state under Biden. Trump cares about our country. Biden doesn’t.

How did you make your determination? Trump has thrown the entire election process in to chaos without any substantive evidence. His own DOJ led by William Barr stated after the election that they found not substantial evidence of fraud that would over turned the election. How does Trumps behavior show you that he cares about the country? Thanks
 
Jesse said:
GrizLA said:

How did you make your determination? Trump has thrown the entire election process in to chaos without any substantive evidence. His own DOJ led by William Barr stated after the election that they found not substantial evidence of fraud that would over turned the election. How does Trumps behavior show you that he cares about the country? Thanks
I think it best for me to say that we could take up 50 pages of the board and not agree on much, thus, let’s not debate this further.
 
Spanky2 said:
Jesse said:
How did you make your determination? Trump has thrown the entire election process in to chaos without any substantive evidence. His own DOJ led by William Barr stated after the election that they found not substantial evidence of fraud that would over turned the election. How does Trumps behavior show you that he cares about the country? Thanks
I think it best for me to say that we could take up 50 pages of the board and not agree on much, thus, let’s not debate this further.

Indeed. Thanks
 
Grudging acceptance of the other, and mutual respect is about all one can expect on eGriz. Well done. Flowers and wine, no. :lol:
 
Jesse said:
GrizLA said:

How did you make your determination? Trump has thrown the entire election process in to chaos without any substantive evidence. His own DOJ led by William Barr stated after the election that they found not substantial evidence of fraud that would over turned the election. How does Trumps behavior show you that he cares about the country? Thanks
I believe you are confusing a "rolling eyes" emoji with something else. I agree entirely with your view of the previous administration. I've also been around for 75 years and know that this country is in trouble when the politicians who tried to undo an open and free election now cling to the flag and their peculiar version of patriotism..
 
a chinese national, working for pfizer in the u.s., blocked taiwan from obtaining the pfizer vaccine? https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4228761
 
Jesse said:
SoldierGriz said:
Good grief; clueless post here.

I think we are learning more everyday with the release of more evidence/papers from the former administration how corrupt it was. It will be interesting to finally see what Trump talked to Putin about in Helsinki. That was the summit where Trumps people seized all of the interpreters notes. Why do you think they did that and as a military guy what was your impression about how the Vindman brothers military careers were dealt with?

Vindman is a turd.

Trump understood that international institutions are largely a waste of time and American money. The UN, World Bank, G-7, WHO etc...

Ask yourself - what war, conflict, or issue (social / diplomatic / information...) have these institutions prevented or mitigated. They are helpless bureaucracies with no real authority because there is no global authority - not one.

Nations will always behave in ways that are most favorable to them. Always. Except the U.S. under Liberal leaders who are willing to extract wealth from the American people in order to fund feel good international campaigns. Nonsense. What do these efforts yield for the American people?

Biden's faith in these international institutions will lead to more American expenditures, less American influence, and a weaker military.
 
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