maybe transferring players thought...

[PlayerRep]

Wait, didn't Hauck play the role of Stitt in UNLV's production of this coach changing saga?
Boosters brought in their guy and Hauck got shit canned?

hauck lost. a lot. stitt had a winning record and the team was improving.

The Griz went down hill significantly in national poll rankings while Stitt was here. From nos. 12 and 8, to not even in the top 30. I just don't know how anyone can say the team was improving, when not making the playoffs, not beating the Cats, and falling out of the top 30 are looked at.

 

[alabamagrizzly]

:roll:

Ya, unless Bobby took Gresch in his office and told him he’ll never play for the Griz again, there’s no way you can pin this all on Bobby. Not even 50/50. The decision to leave ultimately is on Gresch. An older much more athletic QB was brought in to challenge for the starting job and one rose up to the challenge, and one didn’t. I rooted for Gresch as much as anybody because he was our guy but really, name one big moment where Gresch came through last year and showed that he definitely had what it takes to win big games. When you really boil it down, for the most part he just threw a bunch of beautiful deep balls to arguably the greatest receiver corps we’ve ever had.

You don't know that. Maybe Bobby really did have it out for GJ. Maybe he met with him after Spring ball and said, "You can stay here and be 2nd or 3rd string, but if you want to be a college QB you probably need to transfer." If Bobby didn't see GJ ever being his starter this is easily how it could have played out. Hell, Stitt did something similar when that text leaked out where he said "I need a QB".

You pretty much summed up the first sentence of my post. Wait, no you didn’t. You wrote a small essay on the first sentence of my post.

 

[alabamagrizzly]

Wait, didn't Hauck play the role of Stitt in UNLV's production of this coach changing saga?
Boosters brought in their guy and Hauck got shit canned?

hauck lost. a lot. stitt had a winning record and the team was improving.

The Griz went down hill significantly in national poll rankings while Stitt was here. From nos. 12 and 8, to not even in the top 30. I just don't know how anyone can say the team was improving, when not making the playoffs, not beating the Cats, and falling out of the top 30 are looked at.

They’re called blinders.

 

[Hawkeyebowhunter]

SOOOOO Stupid

just wait until you are a big boy, i.e. all of thirty years old. then you will understand. grasshopper.

I'm sucking wind from laughing so hard @ your assumption that Hauck got stitthead fired.....ole jet sweep bob did that all on his own by being a shit coach.

 

[Dutch Lane]

Wait, didn't Hauck play the role of Stitt in UNLV's production of this coach changing saga?
Boosters brought in their guy and Hauck got shit canned?

Yes the boosters did bring in their guy at UNLV a former high school coach from Las Vegas’s Bishop Gorman High. Hauck got the axe at UNLV because they continued to suck and he didn’t win enough games. My understanding is Stitt also got fired because he didnt win enough games, especially last years cat-griz. I agree he and Jensen had a lot of pressure on them to win that game and they failed. I’m almost certain that Bobby and Sneed werent at that game to hex the griz and get Stitt fired and in force Jensen to transfer. But I do think there is a faction of conspiracy fans here led by the guy who calls anyone who supports Bobby and the new program “Haucksuckers”. He’s quite proud of himself for coining that one. :clap: I also understand the personal connections that he and others bring to the table (daughter living two doors down from Stitt or a relative married to a cousin of Jensen or someone having the same classes as Jensen) and are seriously butthurt and turn their pain and anger on Bobby and we who support him and the program, remember we are the Haucksuckers and they are the anti-Hau. Lol.

Bottom line Stitt, Jensen and even Bobby arent bigger then all Griz nation. Jensen made the decision to leave to do what I assume he believes is in his own personal best interest. He’s got a big arm and he’s going to find a program that gives him the best chance to showcase his talent. There’s no question that he has more potentional then Sneed to move to the next level, but he wasnt going to to be able to do that with the Griz after Stitt got fired. That’s all I got.

 

[Mavman]

Argh do you hate the football team? Do you want to see them fail? Do you have a problem with Hauck?
Would you be happy if athletics did not exist at UofM??
Do you go to games? What is your shtick?

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

hauck lost. a lot. stitt had a winning record and the team was improving.

Really...was it?

 

[Griz til I die]

:roll:

Ya, unless Bobby took Gresch in his office and told him he’ll never play for the Griz again, there’s no way you can pin this all on Bobby. Not even 50/50. The decision to leave ultimately is on Gresch. An older much more athletic QB was brought in to challenge for the starting job and one rose up to the challenge, and one didn’t. I rooted for Gresch as much as anybody because he was our guy but really, name one big moment where Gresch came through last year and showed that he definitely had what it takes to win big games. When you really boil it down, for the most part he just threw a bunch of beautiful deep balls to arguably the greatest receiver corps we’ve ever had.

You don't know that. Maybe Bobby really did have it out for GJ. Maybe he met with him after Spring ball and said, "You can stay here and be 2nd or 3rd string, but if you want to be a college QB you probably need to transfer." If Bobby didn't see GJ ever being his starter this is easily how it could have played out. Hell, Stitt did something similar when that text leaked out where he said "I need a QB".

I doubt that’s what happened. Shaun Rainey on Monday night said when they mic’d Up Hauck at the spring game, he said he was going to use both QB’s during the course of the season.

 

[Stop_HammerTime69]

Something has gone wrong here. I understand bringing in a guy for some depth. A new coach will always lead to conflicts with some players, and they'll transfer out. But there is some shady shit going on where the All-American QB wants to take off, and other players are calling people out.

 

[Hawkeyebowhunter]

Something has gone wrong here. I understand bringing in a guy for some depth. A new coach will always lead to conflicts with some players, and they'll transfer out. But there is some shady shit going on where the All-American QB wants to take off, and other players are calling people out.

Could be that the timid and weak are being weeded out

 

[Ringneck]

Something has gone wrong here. I understand bringing in a guy for some depth. A new coach will always lead to conflicts with some players, and they'll transfer out. But there is some shady shit going on where the All-American QB wants to take off, and other players are calling people out.

Whether it's shady or not, I don't know. But I do know that adversity reveals character, and these decisions and changes are revealing people for who they really are - players, coaches, and fans alike.

 

[Ringneck]

Something has gone wrong here. I understand bringing in a guy for some depth. A new coach will always lead to conflicts with some players, and they'll transfer out. But there is some shady shit going on where the All-American QB wants to take off, and other players are calling people out.

Could be that the timid and weak are being weeded out

Could be. But is every player who leaves an unfavorable situation timid and weak? If so, couldn't the same thing be said about all the dropdown players we've brought in over the years? That they couldn't hack it at the FBS level because they were timid and weak, and so they had to go someplace where they wouldn't face so many difficulties?

 

[Grizzly96]

Wait, didn't Hauck play the role of Stitt in UNLV's production of this coach changing saga?
Boosters brought in their guy and Hauck got shit canned?

hauck lost. a lot. stitt had a winning record and the team was improving.

Sorry, but I disagree. The team wasn’t improving or getting worse, they were staying the same. Offense scored in bunches, but faded when needed. Defense NEVER dominated and special teams....what were those again? Oh and let’s not forget the near identical losses to the Scats.


But please continue....,

 

[Grizzly96]

Something has gone wrong here. I understand bringing in a guy for some depth. A new coach will always lead to conflicts with some players, and they'll transfer out. But there is some shady shit going on where the All-American QB wants to take off, and other players are calling people out.

Could be that the timid and weak are being weeded out

Could be. But is every player who leaves an unfavorable situation timid and weak? If so, couldn't the same thing be said about all the dropdown players we've brought in over the years? That they couldn't hack it at the FBS level because they were timid and weak, and so they had to go someplace where they wouldn't face so many difficulties?

I think it depends on the situation. If Huack would have named Sneed the starter and THEN Jensen made this decision, everyone gets it. In this case, Huack has not named a starter, even saying in the spring game that both QBs would be used and compete come fall.

From Jensen’s body language he appeared to be pouting all spring not getting all the 1st reps. That’s what I think is most dissappointing because it makes it look like he quit and didn’t want to compete. If that is the case then yes, it is timid and weak.

 

[Hawkeyebowhunter]

Something has gone wrong here. I understand bringing in a guy for some depth. A new coach will always lead to conflicts with some players, and they'll transfer out. But there is some shady shit going on where the All-American QB wants to take off, and other players are calling people out.

Could be that the timid and weak are being weeded out

Could be. But is every player who leaves an unfavorable situation timid and weak? If so, couldn't the same thing be said about all the dropdown players we've brought in over the years? That they couldn't hack it at the FBS level because they were timid and weak, and so they had to go someplace where they wouldn't face so many difficulties?

I'll echo your answer-Could Be.

I think it's as simple as GJ loved playing for stitt and in his style->his head coach got fired for lack of production->he felt like he wasn't wanted->saw he would have to compete/possibly be benched->wants to play->leaves.

Could he have left because the new staff was more demanding-could have nobody really knows.

My entire argument on all of the posts here is that:
1. We did not lose the next coming of Joe Montana/DD
2. If a player is unhappy, that is going to reflect itself in his attitude which is NOT good for the team and NOT what a new staff needs to be dealing with.


I will be HIGHLY surprised if he is the last player to leave who is in the 2 deeps. Doesn't necessarily mean that they aren't good players, just that they can be a cancer to a football team if their hearts aren't truly in it, and we don't have time for that.

Get with the program, or kick rocks. Simple as that.

 

[Grizzly96]

Something has gone wrong here. I understand bringing in a guy for some depth. A new coach will always lead to conflicts with some players, and they'll transfer out. But there is some shady shit going on where the All-American QB wants to take off, and other players are calling people out.

Could be that the timid and weak are being weeded out

Could be. But is every player who leaves an unfavorable situation timid and weak? If so, couldn't the same thing be said about all the dropdown players we've brought in over the years? That they couldn't hack it at the FBS level because they were timid and weak, and so they had to go someplace where they wouldn't face so many difficulties?

I'll echo your answer-Could Be.

I think it's as simple as GJ loved playing for stitt and in his style->his head coach got fired for lack of production->he felt like he wasn't wanted->saw he would have to compete/possibly be benched->wants to play->leaves.

Could he have left because the new staff was more demanding-could have nobody really knows.

My entire argument on all of the posts here is that:
1. We did not lose the next coming of Joe Montana/DD
2. If a player is unhappy, that is going to reflect itself in his attitude which is NOT good for the team and NOT what a new staff needs to be dealing with.


I will be HIGHLY surprised if he is the last player to leave who is in the 2 deeps. Doesn't necessarily mean that they aren't good players, just that they can be a cancer to a football team if their hearts aren't truly in it, and we don't have time for that.

Get with the program, or kick rocks. Simple as that.

:clap:

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Something has gone wrong here. I understand bringing in a guy for some depth. A new coach will always lead to conflicts with some players, and they'll transfer out. But there is some shady shit going on where the All-American QB wants to take off, and other players are calling people out.

LOL

:roll:

 

[argh!]

you are projecting your own insecurities onto others again, greenie.

as for hauck, the other part of your post pretty much summed up the cronyism that got him hired. thanks for the confirmation.

argh, you are the most insecure poster on egriz. The definition of it.

And you just confirmed that you don't understand what is important in big time athletics. Booster, fans and supporters are important constituencies, and they have a significant role in driving college athletics including who is hired for important coaching positions.

How do you think big time college football coaches should be hired, and who do you think should have influence and make the decision? Just the AD and the college president, with no input from anyone else? Not the people who finance the program and its new buildings? Not the people who attend the games? Should the AD not contact people for advice? Should the AD only talk to people he wants to contact, and not accept calls or input from anyone else? Let's see you views on the process. This should be fun.

hayzeus kristos, greenie, what are you talking about(bqm) i was referring to montana football, which cannot be compared to big time athletics such as can be found at pac-12 schools and the like.

Montana is fairly big time football. It's not Pac-12, but it's in that general ballpark for how coaches are hired.

as you well know, gumbie, "fairly big time" isn't "big time".

 

[PlayerRep]

argh, you are the most insecure poster on egriz. The definition of it.

And you just confirmed that you don't understand what is important in big time athletics. Booster, fans and supporters are important constituencies, and they have a significant role in driving college athletics including who is hired for important coaching positions.

How do you think big time college football coaches should be hired, and who do you think should have influence and make the decision? Just the AD and the college president, with no input from anyone else? Not the people who finance the program and its new buildings? Not the people who attend the games? Should the AD not contact people for advice? Should the AD only talk to people he wants to contact, and not accept calls or input from anyone else? Let's see you views on the process. This should be fun.

hayzeus kristos, greenie, what are you talking about(bqm) i was referring to montana football, which cannot be compared to big time athletics such as can be found at pac-12 schools and the like.

Montana is fairly big time football. It's not Pac-12, but it's in that general ballpark for how coaches are hired.

as you well know, gumbie, "fairly big time" isn't "big time".

It's close enough, and the fan base acts like a big time program in demanding success and a good and successful coach. A handful or more of big financial supporters and a handful or more of big and close other supporters of the program have considerable influence. They don't run the program, but they have influence. Just a fact of life.

Hey, where's your proposal on how the UM football coach should be hired and fired?

 

[huack!]

hayzeus kristos, greenie, what are you talking about(bqm) i was referring to montana football, which cannot be compared to big time athletics such as can be found at pac-12 schools and the like.

Montana is fairly big time football. It's not Pac-12, but it's in that general ballpark for how coaches are hired.

as you well know, gumbie, "fairly big time" isn't "big time".

It's close enough, and the fan base acts like a big time program in demanding success and a good and successful coach. A handful or more of big financial supporters and a handful or more of big and close other supporters of the program have considerable influence. They don't run the program, but they have influence. Just a fact of life.

Hey, where's your proposal on how the UM football coach should be hired and fired?

I'm going to call my friends, remind them of how much better that 'past' was than is the 'present', then suggest they pressure someone who is just trying to do his job into hiring me. Competition, baby!