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Position Breakdown: QB

Raider said:
You guys kill me. Please explain why Brady isn't "athletic".

Brady was a great basketball player and is a good overall athlete. You guys are making an assumption because he is lanky. Would I call him fast? No, but he is a good athlete.

Of course he's athletic, but to call him the most athletic QB on the team :roll: is an exaggeration.
 
Ringneck said:
Raider said:
You guys kill me. Please explain why Brady isn't "athletic".

Brady was a great basketball player and is a good overall athlete. You guys are making an assumption because he is lanky. Would I call him fast? No, but he is a good athlete.

Of course he's athletic, but to call him the most athletic QB on the team :roll: is an exaggeration.


No it's not. Who is then?..Chalich? Lol
 
NorthwestFresh said:
alabamagrizzly said:
To be honest, if Stitt really gets this thing going, I'd bet a 5 star would at least consider coming here.

:shock:

Haha!!

God this pains me to say, but I agree with NorthwestFresh here. Let's not get delusional, folks.
 
Ringneck said:
Raider said:
You guys kill me. Please explain why Brady isn't "athletic".

Brady was a great basketball player and is a good overall athlete. You guys are making an assumption because he is lanky. Would I call him fast? No, but he is a good athlete.

Of course he's athletic, but to call him the most athletic QB on the team :roll: is an exaggeration.
 
BWahlberg said:
alabamagrizzly said:
I think your right about Gus keeping the job for now. Gonna be interesting to see if Chalich can get a better grip on the O and how quickly can Reese push Gus and Chalich? I think Stitt lost some confidence in Gus after the NDSU loss but I don't see Stitt replacing Gus cus of that. I see Stitt giving him an honest shot to keep the job if he proves to stay ahead of the competion. Normally I would not think much of Keige coming from a small school but Im guessing Stitt sees something in him. Aaron Rogers started at a JC also so there's always a chance of getting something special. I'm also intrigued by Praters development and how the '17 battle between him and Reese will work out. And in '18? The future is bright for Griz QB's.

For Chalich he went from a pro-style/ball control offense to a hurry up, that was a challenge for him. Philips is going from hurry up to hurry up - so that adjustment won't be needed, as much.

I could see it going as follows:

2016 key battle: Gus vs Chalich and Phillips

2017 key battle: Phillips vs Prater and Kaegi

2018 key battle Prater vs Kaegi or Jensen or Bea

May the kid prove me wrong, but if Kaegi ever sees the field I'll be shocked.
 
Stitt wants to have 3 QBs that he can put in and not have to lower the play calls. Last year is over and I must say we need to move on. Normal for a first year season coach with a completely new offense but I feel much better as I look ahead with a pretty good group of QBs coming to play this year.
Brady ---Chalich-----Phillips----Plus a few others. I see these first three being our top QBs for this year. If another sneaks in I think that could only be good for our team. After spring practice we should be be able to make some good determanations.....can't wait!
 
gus is bright on and off the field, has best arm of all the qbs we have seen so far and is an EFFECTIVE runner much like osweiler is for Denver broncos vs. what a hall of famer in manning is not....gus is a good enough athlete to keep defenses honest, his basket ball ability tells me that......top job is clearly to gus imo ....
 
krammer said:
gus is bright on and off the field, has best arm of all the qbs we have seen so far and is an EFFECTIVE runner much like osweiler is for Denver broncos vs. what a hall of famer in manning is not....gus is a good enough athlete to keep defenses honest, his basket ball ability tells me that......top job is clearly to gus imo ....

Can't agree with the effective runner part krammer, defenses don't respect his running at all, most of the time they ignore him and he's alone after the handoff. The opportunity looks like it's there but rarely pans out when he pulls it down.
 
jodcon said:
krammer said:
gus is bright on and off the field, has best arm of all the qbs we have seen so far and is an EFFECTIVE runner much like osweiler is for Denver broncos vs. what a hall of famer in manning is not....gus is a good enough athlete to keep defenses honest, his basket ball ability tells me that......top job is clearly to gus imo ....

Can't agree with the effective runner part krammer, defenses don't respect his running at all, most of the time they ignore him and he's alone after the handoff. The opportunity looks like it's there but rarely pans out when he pulls it down.

Good thing the running ability of the QB is not a priority for the offense. I don't think Stitt brought in more competition because Gus isn't as much of a running threat... Also kid of hard to assess a kid's mobility when he is playing on a recent fractured leg injury.

The real question is whether or not Gus will become more comfortable and be less apt to make the bad throws that he made in some of the games. Good thing for us, that is something he will very likely improve on and will need to improve on to keep the job.
 
grizfan95 said:
BWahlberg said:
alabamagrizzly said:
I think your right about Gus keeping the job for now. Gonna be interesting to see if Chalich can get a better grip on the O and how quickly can Reese push Gus and Chalich? I think Stitt lost some confidence in Gus after the NDSU loss but I don't see Stitt replacing Gus cus of that. I see Stitt giving him an honest shot to keep the job if he proves to stay ahead of the competion. Normally I would not think much of Keige coming from a small school but Im guessing Stitt sees something in him. Aaron Rogers started at a JC also so there's always a chance of getting something special. I'm also intrigued by Praters development and how the '17 battle between him and Reese will work out. And in '18? The future is bright for Griz QB's.

For Chalich he went from a pro-style/ball control offense to a hurry up, that was a challenge for him. Philips is going from hurry up to hurry up - so that adjustment won't be needed, as much.

I could see it going as follows:

2016 key battle: Gus vs Chalich and Phillips

2017 key battle: Phillips vs Prater and Kaegi

2018 key battle Prater vs Kaegi or Jensen or Bea

May the kid prove me wrong, but if Kaegi ever sees the field I'll be shocked.

If Jensen doesn't win the job as a RS FR in 2017, he will DEFINITELY be the starter in 2018.
 
griz5700 said:
Ringneck said:
Of course he's athletic, but to call him the most athletic QB on the team :roll: is an exaggeration.

No it's not. Who is then?..Chalich? Lol

If agility and speed are important factors in athleticism, then yes, I think Chalich is at least as athletic as Gustafson. And from the limited film I've seen of them, I'd say that both Kentucky transfer Reese Phillips and incoming freshman Gresch Jensen are more athletic than either Gus or Chalich.
 
AZGrizFan said:
grizfan95 said:
BWahlberg said:
alabamagrizzly said:
I think your right about Gus keeping the job for now. Gonna be interesting to see if Chalich can get a better grip on the O and how quickly can Reese push Gus and Chalich? I think Stitt lost some confidence in Gus after the NDSU loss but I don't see Stitt replacing Gus cus of that. I see Stitt giving him an honest shot to keep the job if he proves to stay ahead of the competion. Normally I would not think much of Keige coming from a small school but Im guessing Stitt sees something in him. Aaron Rogers started at a JC also so there's always a chance of getting something special. I'm also intrigued by Praters development and how the '17 battle between him and Reese will work out. And in '18? The future is bright for Griz QB's.

For Chalich he went from a pro-style/ball control offense to a hurry up, that was a challenge for him. Philips is going from hurry up to hurry up - so that adjustment won't be needed, as much.

I could see it going as follows:

2016 key battle: Gus vs Chalich and Phillips

2017 key battle: Phillips vs Prater and Kaegi

2018 key battle Prater vs Kaegi or Jensen or Bea

May the kid prove me wrong, but if Kaegi ever sees the field I'll be shocked.

If Jensen doesn't win the job as a RS FR in 2017, he will DEFINITELY be the starter in 2018.

Remember hearing similar things with Pflug... I do agree with you though, although 2018 is a long time away in football, alot of things could change.
 
Sam A. Blitz said:
jodcon said:
krammer said:
gus is bright on and off the field, has best arm of all the qbs we have seen so far and is an EFFECTIVE runner much like osweiler is for Denver broncos vs. what a hall of famer in manning is not....gus is a good enough athlete to keep defenses honest, his basket ball ability tells me that......top job is clearly to gus imo ....

Can't agree with the effective runner part krammer, defenses don't respect his running at all, most of the time they ignore him and he's alone after the handoff. The opportunity looks like it's there but rarely pans out when he pulls it down.

Good thing the running ability of the QB is not a priority for the offense. I don't think Stitt brought in more competition because Gus isn't as much of a running threat... Also kid of hard to assess a kid's mobility when he is playing on a recent fractured leg injury.

The real question is whether or not Gus will become more comfortable and be less apt to make the bad throws that he made in some of the games. Good thing for us, that is something he will very likely improve on and will need to improve on to keep the job.

I disagree to some extent. I believe that Stitt would like to have in the QB someone capable of running the ball if nothing to keep the defense honest. I don't think he is that stubborn to ignore a threat to the defense over the singular objective of good decision making .
 
G-BEARS said:
AZGrizFan said:
grizfan95 said:
BWahlberg said:
For Chalich he went from a pro-style/ball control offense to a hurry up, that was a challenge for him. Philips is going from hurry up to hurry up - so that adjustment won't be needed, as much.

I could see it going as follows:

2016 key battle: Gus vs Chalich and Phillips

2017 key battle: Phillips vs Prater and Kaegi

2018 key battle Prater vs Kaegi or Jensen or Bea

May the kid prove me wrong, but if Kaegi ever sees the field I'll be shocked.

If Jensen doesn't win the job as a RS FR in 2017, he will DEFINITELY be the starter in 2018.

Remember hearing similar things with Pflug... I do agree with you though, although 2018 is a long time away in football, alot of things could change.

Except one HUGE difference, Jensen is Stitt's guy and Pflug was not. Stitt is thrilled to have landed this kid. He literally stopped going after other legit QB prospects after Jensen committed. He literally said this kid is the QB of the future and the future is bright. They will red shirt him this year and I think he takes the reigns or plays a ton in 2017. Not to mention Stitt talked anout him and showed his tape more so than any other at the signing say event. You can tell he is very very excited about what this kid can do
 
fanofzoo said:
Sam A. Blitz said:
jodcon said:
krammer said:
gus is bright on and off the field, has best arm of all the qbs we have seen so far and is an EFFECTIVE runner much like osweiler is for Denver broncos vs. what a hall of famer in manning is not....gus is a good enough athlete to keep defenses honest, his basket ball ability tells me that......top job is clearly to gus imo ....

Can't agree with the effective runner part krammer, defenses don't respect his running at all, most of the time they ignore him and he's alone after the handoff. The opportunity looks like it's there but rarely pans out when he pulls it down.

Good thing the running ability of the QB is not a priority for the offense. I don't think Stitt brought in more competition because Gus isn't as much of a running threat... Also kid of hard to assess a kid's mobility when he is playing on a recent fractured leg injury.

The real question is whether or not Gus will become more comfortable and be less apt to make the bad throws that he made in some of the games. Good thing for us, that is something he will very likely improve on and will need to improve on to keep the job.

I disagree to some extent. I believe that Stitt would like to have in the QB someone capable of running the ball if nothing to keep the defense honest. I don't think he is that stubborn to ignore a threat to the defense over the singular objective of good decision making .

Nope. He doesn't. A mobile QB does more harm than good in his system.

You want to know what Stitt wants in a QB?? Watch Gresch Jensen. He's definitely not going to beat anyone with his feet. If he had better speed, he'd be going PAC12.

The perfect QB for Stitt's offense >> http://www.hudl.com/athlete/1874939/highlights/285891449
 
BWahlberg said:
mikegriz said:
horribilisfan8184 said:
alabamagrizzly said:
I think your right about Gus keeping the job for now. Gonna be interesting to see if Chalich can get a better grip on the O and how quickly can Reese push Gus and Chalich? I think Stitt lost some confidence in Gus after the NDSU loss but I don't see Stitt replacing Gus cus of that. I see Stitt giving him an honest shot to keep the job if he proves to stay ahead of the competion. Normally I would not think much of Keige coming from a small school but Im guessing Stitt sees something in him. Aaron Rogers started at a JC also so there's always a chance of getting something special. I'm also intrigued by Praters development and how the '17 battle between him and Reese will work out. And in '18? The future is bright for Griz QB's.

I was at the SDSU game. They figured how to defend Gus at halftime. By the end of NDSU game that was 6 bad quarters in a row for Gus. That had to have Stitt spooked, and he has picked up a drop down to help solve that issue. Hopefully Gus will figure out how to deal with what was thrown at him the last 6 quarters of the year by the end of fall camp.

Unless none of these incoming guys can both throw andrun, I'm thinking we're going to see a new #1 in 2016

I still fail to comprehend why so many posters on here think Stitt wants a mobile QB... I don't think that's his priority in a QB.

Bc the haven't figured out that running a spread offense doesn't mean you need a mobile QB. Most people don't realize there are different "spread" offenses.
 
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