Rcscott-don't know where you coach tennis, but you should know that several Montana junior tennis players played college tennis at the highest level. I know of two that also competed on the Professional Satellite Circuit. Further, one was ranked 23 in singles and 2 in doubles for his play on the National Amateur Circuit. One player was an All American.
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High school tennis seems to be on the rise to me. Problem with Tennis these days, is you have to be "a member of the country club" to compete and practice year round. The opportunities for your average families are very limited to compete in tennis. Not so much with wrestling. I would bet that only a handful of people on this site could name one player from your list.
I would also bet that the name of Zaddick, Davis, Eggum,Todd etc. would be more recognizable on this board, as well as team traditions from Butte, Havre, and Conrad.
The sport of Tennis lives in a bubble in Montana due to our weather and access to facilities. The sport of wrestling lives in a bubble in Montana because it's not the cool sport. Both are the same.
By the way, I'm not a tennis player. I teach mental toughness with our girls and basics. It's starting to become a good formula.
I would also bet that the name of Zaddick, Davis, Eggum,Todd etc. would be more recognizable on this board, as well as team traditions from Butte, Havre, and Conrad.
The sport of Tennis lives in a bubble in Montana due to our weather and access to facilities. The sport of wrestling lives in a bubble in Montana because it's not the cool sport. Both are the same.
By the way, I'm not a tennis player. I teach mental toughness with our girls and basics. It's starting to become a good formula.
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rcscott said:
I've tried for years to get wrestlers into my program, and, a lot of them always tell me they wish they could, but, they just don't take the plunge. Parker Filius hung around with a lot of tennis kids and would always come play in the evenings. He would have been solid. Jase Stokes has told me 100 times he wish he would have played tennis. Dane Warp (who would have been a four-time state champion wrestler) has said his only regret in his high school athletic career was not playing tennis for me. I've always thought wrestlers would do well in tennis. But here in Havre, wrestlers don't do spring sports at all, not track or tennis. They wrestle. I can't knock it. It works well for them. The dynasty we have here isn't going anyway any time soon.
As far as the dynasty.... no kidding. Scott has it working up there.
Same story here in Choteau. We have talked to a lot of boys about playing tennis as we just added it to our list of activities. Spring is a hard time to keep kids heads focused. Oh well. Can't make them do it. You listed some great athletes that I've watched for a long time (6 years) It works the same way on the wrestling end with the commitment. I wish I had a dollar for all the kids that said they would have wrestled, my son-in-law included who is a special ops guy.
It sounds like you have a great relationship with those kids. Helping these kids become great humans first, is my focus in coaching. The accolades follow. I think you are the same way.
Same story here in Choteau. We have talked to a lot of boys about playing tennis as we just added it to our list of activities. Spring is a hard time to keep kids heads focused. Oh well. Can't make them do it. You listed some great athletes that I've watched for a long time (6 years) It works the same way on the wrestling end with the commitment. I wish I had a dollar for all the kids that said they would have wrestled, my son-in-law included who is a special ops guy.
It sounds like you have a great relationship with those kids. Helping these kids become great humans first, is my focus in coaching. The accolades follow. I think you are the same way.
While there is certainly validity to this statement, it could be also be said for many sports these days. In order to be, say, an elite soccer player, you have to play (and pay for) club sports, private lessons, etc.
rcscott said:
Thanks.
Yeah, i just copied and pasted this and the other post from the MHSA site. I thought it could have flaws because I thought Butte had 15 or 16 in a row...don't remember exactly though.
YttriumGriz39 said:
When comparing Apples to apples, there are far more boys wrestling than boys playing tennis. Nice try...
And if you want to go further into the numbers of participants per the two sports, I would point out the fact that MANY go out for Tennis because it is "A Fun" thing to do outside in the spring, and get out of school and take bus rides for a lot of the non-real-competitive/non-serious participants looking for a sandwich and a tan. Tennis is a social thing for a lot the kids, and for first time Track participants too. Now don't go all hay-wire, SURE their is some very serious and competitive Tennis players, absolutely. They are good athletes and some move on to do well in college and beyond. Tennis is their number 1 or 2 thing in life. But no one can deny that many HS rosters, especially at the bigger schools, have tire-kickers on there that are just looking for an activity and play tennis in HS for the very first times in their lives. I've certainly seen it. You certainly don't see many tire-kickers in wrestling rooms...
Do yourself a favor and watch this THRILLING last victory at STATE: :shock: :clap:
http://s200.trackwrestling.com/tw/VideoPlayer.jsp?TIM=1486891084821&twSessionId=uxycumqmmsiwsey&matchId=5553139104
http://s200.trackwrestling.com/tw/VideoPlayer.jsp?TIM=1486891084821&twSessionId=uxycumqmmsiwsey&matchId=5553139104
Hey guys, (everyone)
I love to see the passion for our respective sports. The only reason Tennis was brought up was to get rid of it to bring in wrestling as a possibility. I love tennis, and I love wrestling. All are making great points respecting their "love". I don't think the Tennis program should be eliminated period.
My point being, that a D1 program should be available in the state for wrestling, and money can be found. We do ship kids off to these programs out of state, so it says that we can compete.
It doesn't take away from the fact that some tennis players do the same. (I have checked rosters at the U and haven't seen a Montana kid yet though) Doesn't matter. I don't see a roster yet for a Montana wrestler at the U either.
This argument is made this time every year, and at least the argument is being made. I hope it falls on the right ears someday.
I on the other hand, will keep buying a lottery ticket and hope to hit the big one. When that happens, you bet we'll see it.
I love to see the passion for our respective sports. The only reason Tennis was brought up was to get rid of it to bring in wrestling as a possibility. I love tennis, and I love wrestling. All are making great points respecting their "love". I don't think the Tennis program should be eliminated period.
My point being, that a D1 program should be available in the state for wrestling, and money can be found. We do ship kids off to these programs out of state, so it says that we can compete.
It doesn't take away from the fact that some tennis players do the same. (I have checked rosters at the U and haven't seen a Montana kid yet though) Doesn't matter. I don't see a roster yet for a Montana wrestler at the U either.
This argument is made this time every year, and at least the argument is being made. I hope it falls on the right ears someday.
I on the other hand, will keep buying a lottery ticket and hope to hit the big one. When that happens, you bet we'll see it.
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I was there too. He didn't go for a home run. He looked to relax a touch thinking they were headed to overtime and Peak just simply ran him over. Peak took it. Watch it again...Peak drives his feat first and Trae is caught off guard and tried to throw his hips out of desperation. He didn't just capitalize on a poor move by Trae. I know Trae very, very well. I feel terrible for him, as Trae is an awesome young man, I think a 4.0 student. But I absolutely give 100% credit to Peak for wrestling a great match.rcscott said:
Almost as thrilling was Justin Gibson from Glacier getting a takedown with only 3 seconds left on the clock in overtime to beat the #1 ranked guy from CMR.
It was a GREAT tournament this year. A lot of drama and tremendous matches.
Bottom line: Hopefully, the new President of UM and the BOR will decide to offer wrestling, swimming and baseball gradually over a few years. Eventually, this will build upon our enrollment and make our students more diverse in make up.
At the same time, we should look at a new conference that places emphasis on the up athletic programs.
Speaking of a new President, have we initiated a national search? Lets get the show on the road at UM!
At the same time, we should look at a new conference that places emphasis on the up athletic programs.
Speaking of a new President, have we initiated a national search? Lets get the show on the road at UM!
Thanks for the insight. Standing on the benches from the Metra floor is not the greatest perch out there. It lookied like he was trying to throw a Jap Whizzer. I think I'll go back and watch the track wrestling vid. I've talked with his dad several times and can believe in the "awesome young man" comment. I like Rich.Pin2Win said:
