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A real take on coach and his players
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HelenaHandBasket
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UMGriz75 said:
Leave it to a member of the dynamic duo to drop this nugget.
UMGriz75 said:
1. Actually you quoted "I just want people to like me" so there is a difference. Had he said "I just want people to like me" it would imply that is what is most important to him. If you want to criticize a person for whatever it is you don't like about them, that's great, more power to you. Just be accurate.
2. I'm still waiting for you to furnish the articles or tweets from me that reported Stitt was "heavily recruited". You were a really great journalist in your day, so I'm sure you'll have those reports in no time........
3. Also let me know where I publicly admitted to enjoying being told "dirt" and "highly confidential information". I don't ever remember a coach or player or administrator sharing anything like that with me. So if you could show me where I publicly delighted in that, I'd appreciate it.
4. Hope you have a really good Wednesday night. You're such a joy to all of us and we just appreciate you so much. Take care, 75!
UMGriz75
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In other words, I quoted him accurately, a nice lie on your part initially, but didn't quote a different part that you preferred for a different purpose. Are you for real? It's pretty clear to everyone you are "all in" for this coach, and will adjust your "coverage" accordingly.kyle_sample said:
I have a different opinion on his "press conference" than you do, especially since his "180" on "its all my fault" from his earlier "blame the team" comments in previous pressers. After all, after the Cat game, we were an "8-3, 9-2" team. What's to apologize for? You left that out too, didn't you? You're going to be a busy little man trying to clean up after this coach. You appear to now have erased all mention of this team "losing it's fire," and that "it's been that way for a while" and that Stitt hoped that, with some losses "some of these guys would start to get it." Kind of demolishes your whole artificial narrative, doesn't it?
You are pretty damn selective in what you "want" to quote from this coach. You could not be as concerned and outraged by opinions different from yours if you were his paid press agent.
People will have opinions different than yours. When you grow up, you might even realize they have different and even perhaps more thorough experiences than you. Wrapping yourself up in faux indignation because somebody accurately quotes a coach, -- in context of other remarks -- is going to keep you pretty busy, because it's a false journalism.
I don't think it was a good press conference. In context of his earlier "blame the team, blame the player remarks", I thought it was both embarrassing and hallucinogenic. This coach has done it before.
I did like the idea that he promised to take the off-season and study football, on the other hand. I am sure you did too.
yawn
UMGriz75
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kyle_sample said:
I suggested at the time that you ought to disavow at least telling people that "you don't know well personally" that you get all sorts of "very private" information about players and staff, and the notion that coaches were telling "special you" "serious dirt" about players and staff.
You refused to do so, even though I noted at the time, with the Krakauer case, that student/athlete confidentiality was a big issue, and the idea that some nitwit journalist is running around telling practical strangers that he gets "dirt" from the coaches is just reprehensible, especially given that it was a big legal issue in the headlines at the time.
Now you are pleading ignorance?
I have a feeling it's for real.
UMGriz75 said:
not to jump into this or anything, but you very clearly claimed sample "enjoyed" getting personal info on students. i don't see any proof that he enjoys it, that he searches it out, or that he shares it. keep trying to obfuscate your way to "victory", though. it says a lot about you.
UMGriz75
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Your friend was all over the place about how Stitt had been heavily recruited prior to Montana.kyle_sample said:
And of course, in his fashion, Ferguson falsified what Stitt had actually said. And Sample, the Stitt crusader, left the impression stand, that Stitt had been recruited prior to Montana, and so he was obviously some kind of "get." You know, because Sample rampages over every alleged "misrepresentation" seeking, he says, "truth!!!" Except for that one, because it closely fit the narrative these two have been trying to feed Griz Nation. And by silence, he endorsed the false notion, just as by his silence with regard to receiving "dirt" and "very private" information about players and staff from UM coaches, he endorsed the notion that he did.George Ferguson said:
And with Ferguson's overt falsehood, and Sample's compliant silence, I noted the following interview:
http://www.espn.com/college-football/st ... te-coaches
So, Sample, there's your three points. Got it yet?
UMGriz75
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Sample running around bragging to veritable complete strangers, for no apparent ethical or professional reason, that he gets "dirt" and "very private information" from UM coaches offers a mystery to me as to whether he enjoys it, he was confessing to an outrage, he was bragging about his status, or trying to impress a potential date. I was not the source of the comment. I admit to finding "motive" incomprehensible in that kind of remark. UM coaches do not, or at least should not, be dishing "dirt" about players and staff. Running around claiming they do is irresponsible.argh! said:
Sample did not disavow the comments despite my suggestion that it was likely a good idea to do so, given all those Federal confidentiality rules then in the headlines. That said a lot about him, you know. That "status" is personally important to him.
UMGriz75
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Sample demanded answers. He got them. He lied about me "misquoting" Stitt: the quote was direct. He lied about not knowing anything about "dirt" from coaches, and he pretended ignorance at news reporting about Stitt having been "recruited" before Montana.brewskis said:
Seems like a real journalist would not make that many false claims, right? Batman?
UMGriz75 said:
You might literally be the dumbest, most dense, person I've ever not met. I wonder what your next illogical jump will be. But while we wait, you might want to run on down to Albertsons where they're having a savings on tinfoil. I just want to make sure you have all the headwear you can have as these temps drop. You gotta protect that wonderful brain of yours.
horribilisfan8184
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kyle_sample said:
He's hell bent on proving the wisdom of Odin, from the Hávamál...
The ignorant booby had best be silent
When he moves among other men,
No one will know what a nit-wit he is
Until he begins to talk;
No one knows less what a nit-wit he is
Than the man who talks too much.
Or perhaps the Proverbs of Solomon:
17:28 Even a fool, when he holds his peace, is counted wise: and he that shuts his lips is esteemed a man of understanding.
That's all I have. Back to 75 blackout.
Blgs Griz Fan
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I find Stitt's quote about just wanting people to like him interesting and maybe a little disturbing. He was hired to coach an FCS football team to be competitive, be conference champions and compete for the national championship. I doubt the criteria for hiring included having people like him.
Coaches should be judged on their records, on the academic progress of their student athletes, and on the qualities of their players after graduation. There is a difference between being liked and being respected.
Coaches should be judged on their records, on the academic progress of their student athletes, and on the qualities of their players after graduation. There is a difference between being liked and being respected.
UMGriz75 said:
One thing is certain: UMGriz75 will never be quoted as saying "I want people to like me"!
