The case for Ty Gregorak

['68griz]

Everyone wanted him fired after last year's North Dakota game. Half wanted him fired after this year's Cal Poly game. Half didn't know what to think after the Eastern Washington. Half now want him named head coach after we beat the Cats. Half must be 7th grade girls.

Well put, well put.

 

[kemajic]

Someone just answer the question. Is Ty Gregorak the best head coach in the Big Sky? Is he as good as Beau Baldwin? Is he as good as Mike Kramer? Is he as good as Walsh? If the answer isn't yes to all of the above, why is he the best head coach for the university of Montana?

He isn't.

 

[PlayerRep]

Someone just answer the question. Is Ty Gregorak the best head coach in the Big Sky? Is he as good as Beau Baldwin? Is he as good as Mike Kramer? Is he as good as Walsh? If the answer isn't yes to all of the above, why is he the best head coach for the university of Montana?

Moot question now. I think Hauck will be the next coach.

 

[kemajic]

No problem hiring a former "within" like Pease, who is clearly qualified for the job. But the opposition to hiring a current assistant is based simply on a strong belief that they do not stack up well against other available options. The anecdote that the Kennedy hire was a bad one is being overused, particularly when it has little relevance to this situation. You like do discount Read (who redefined the program), while touting Hauck, whose Montana playing/coaching experience consisted of one grad. assistant year 15 years prior to coming in as HC. Please take your argument to Haslam, who will be making the decision; you've made your opinion over and over here and you provide nothing new.

Hauck attended UM and grew up in MT. He was hardly an outsider. I believe Haslam has asked billingsgriz to go back to egriz, and try to straighten out some people, like yourself.

Thanks for your contribution; since the Haucks went to High School 40 miles away, I was pretty well aware of their education. But getting back to relevance, please describe the extent of BH's football playing and coaching at UM prior to becoming HC. In getting BH, we got far more Neuheisel than we got Montana. Haslam's top target today is not a current UM assistant.

You want to minimize Hauck's connection to UM, but I'm not going to let you get away with that. Again, attended UM and grad assistant. Brother was a star football player at UM. Hauck grew up in Montana. His dad was a long-time coach. Hauck went to many coaches conventions with his dad, and knew many MT high school coaches before he returned. His family had various summer places near Kalispell and Georgetown lake. Hauck and his family were well-known in MT and Bobby and Tim were naturals for recruiting MT. If you playing/coaching at a school are the only ways to be connected to a school or state, well then...you are hopeless, and clueless

No, clueless is your endless drivel to avoid arguing the only point I made; I will repeat it here for you. Without diversion, which part of this is incorrect?

"while touting Hauck, whose Montana playing/coaching experience consisted of one grad. assistant year 15 years prior to coming in as HC."

 

[AZGrizFan]

Someone just answer the question. Is Ty Gregorak the best head coach in the Big Sky? Is he as good as Beau Baldwin? Is he as good as Mike Kramer? Is he as good as Walsh? If the answer isn't yes to all of the above, why is he the best head coach for the university of Montana?

His starting defense in the last 10 quarters of football have given up 3 points and 477 yards of total offense (and 200 of THAT was in the 2nd half to SUU). 244 yards surrendered to MSU, who averages 486 per game.

Think about that for a moment....477 yards of offense surrendered in TEN quarters of football.

 

[poiuyter]

:!:

 

[Paytonlives]

He is a cat

FTC

 

[LongTimeCatFan]

He is a cat

FTC

 

[CDAGRIZ]

He is a cat

FTC

I think most people are pretty neutral on this move. To the extent that there were issues, they are yours now. Good luck! :thumb:

 

[NorthEndZoneDan]

He is a cat

FTC

just a friendly piece of advice, you might want to keep him out of the strip clubs.
I'm just sayin.....

 

[LongTimeCatFan]

He is a cat

FTC

just a friendly piece of advice, you might want to keep him out of the strip clubs.
I'm just sayin.....

He liked Fred's did he?

 

[NorthEndZoneDan]

He is a cat

FTC

just a friendly piece of advice, you might want to keep him out of the strip clubs.
I'm just sayin.....

He liked Fred's did he?

google it.

possibly the best strip club story ever -

"Ty Gregorak, Former Buff, Breaks Strip Club Rule No. 1 Never Steal the Bouncer's Handgun"

http://www.westword.com/news/ty-gregorak-former-buff-breaks-strip-club-rule-no-1-never-steal-the-bouncers-handgun-5905123

 

[UMGriz75]

I agreed with Brint's assessment of Ty Gregorak last Fall, and believe that Gregorak continued to improve. Knowledgeable outsiders termed some of his designs "masterful." As I noted early on, the best thing that happened to Coach Stitt coming to Montana was to have Ty Gregorak as his DC.

On the other hand, who could have guessed that Coach Stitt would coach with his elbows?

No coach should create toxic environments on their own teams, and this one, among others, became one of the most toxic. And then to see Gregorak trashed here, far and wide, underscores what a toxic fanbase can become as well. Gregorak is well-vouched for by his NFL products. Stitt has none.
[tweet]https://twitter.com/jtripp37/status/676574985683492864[/tweet]
So, here's the guy that knows Stitt's strategy, attended all the closed practices, developed an absolute loathing for Stitt, and Stitt's own "method" of coaching turned the guy loose at a major rival, no doubt willing to call any other DC and OC in the conference when Griz games are on the schedule.

To some, this is apparently thought of as "strategic thinking."

There's the old saying about not letting your ego burn your bridges, but there's a corollary, don't burn your bridge when you are standing on it.

 

[goatcreekgriz]

For the most part, I believe Griz players/alumni/fans consider TG a good coach and maybe even a better man. As a general proposition, when someone I supervise or work with moves on to a new opportunity, I congratulate the person even if it is a loss to my organization. The difficulty here is where TG is heading. I doubt there is truly much upside for him in Bozo, UM gave him an opportunity when he found himself unemployed after his Boulder fiasco, and this move may just prove how marginalized he became as a coach for the Griz. Some just feel like sand has been kicked in our face. As for me, I am glad my tickets are two rows behind the visiting team's bench and I look forward to a lively discussion in November when TG returns wearing blue and gold.

 

[bgbigdog]

I agreed with Brint's assessment of Ty Gregorak last Fall, and believe that Gregorak continued to improve. Knowledgeable outsiders termed some of his designs "masterful." As I noted early on, the best thing that happened to Coach Stitt coming to Montana was to have Ty Gregorak as his DC.

On the other hand, who could have guessed that Coach Stitt would coach with his elbows?

No coach should create toxic environments on their own teams, and this one, among others, became one of the most toxic. And then to see Gregorak trashed here, far and wide, underscores what a toxic fanbase can become as well. Gregorak is well-vouched for by his NFL products. Stitt has none.
[tweet]https://twitter.com/jtripp37/status/676574985683492864[/tweet]
So, here's the guy that knows Stitt's strategy, attended all the closed practices, developed an absolute loathing for Stitt, and Stitt's own "method" of coaching turned the guy loose at a major rival, no doubt willing to call any other DC and OC in the conference when Griz games are on the schedule.

To some, this is apparently thought of as "strategic thinking."

There's the old saying about not letting your ego burn your bridges, but there's a corollary, don't burn your bridge when you are standing on it.

Absolutely sure all of that "masterful" coaching designs were Ty's? Stitt likely considered the options, and @ the end of the day, believed the benefits outweighed the negatives. Stitt teaches anyone who will listen how to run this offense, all day long. Don't be too sure that he'll lose any sleep over Gregorak being able to put the brakes on it.

What are Gregoraks former players suppose to say about him? Yeah, he was a real tool... Come on.

And as for ego, this was more about performance. Let's see how great the state ag defenses are with Ty calling the shots exclusively. Oh wait, Choate's experience is on the defense. I'm sure there won't be any ego involved there. He'll just delegate and let things roll. No one knows how things will turn out, but let me share one of my favorite quotes on ego. "Respect yourself enough to walk away from anything that no longer serves you, grows you or makes you happy." I think it fits them both. Not sure a corallary is needed.

 

[UMGriz75]

Absolutely sure all of that "masterful" coaching designs were Ty's? Stitt likely considered the options, and @ the end of the day, believed the benefits outweighed the negatives. Stitt teaches anyone who will listen how to run this offense, all day long. Don't be too sure that he'll lose any sleep over Gregorak being able to put the brakes on it.

Well, if by the end of the season, Stitt was "fully in charge" of the defense as well, I guess our loss by the highest score, 37 points, all season can't be blamed on Gregorak, right? Against a team we had beaten and was playing its second string QB? That it was both an offensive and defensive failure, right?

But, wow, you know what Stitt considered, what he teaches, and how much sleep he loses?

Are you Mrs. Stitt?

 

[UMGriz75]

What are Gregoraks former players suppose to say about him? Yeah, he was a real tool... Come on.

They don't have to say anything.

What is remarkable is how many current and former players are saying something.
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[tweet]https://twitter.com/Tyrone_Holmes_/status/676495854052597760[/tweet]
[tweet]https://twitter.com/BrockCoyle56/status/676485736296648704[/tweet]
[tweet]https://twitter.com/ryanjohnson_99/status/676467736134856704[/tweet]
[tweet]https://twitter.com/ASchmidtacular/status/676508083166646272[/tweet]
[tweet]https://twitter.com/jtripp37/status/676574985683492864[/tweet]
[tweet]https://twitter.com/shayne_cochran/status/676522392152240128[/tweet]
[tweet]https://twitter.com/GRIZpunter/status/676500103318777856[/tweet]

 

[grzz]

75, what are they supposed to say? There were a few current players that said things not so flattering, but I supposed they don't count?

And your assertion in another thread that part of this is Stitt's fault because he didn't take Ty to his press conferences is ludicrous. Ty was not the head coach, Stitt was. Ty did not get the job. If Ty did anything whatsoever to encourage any sort of divide, that is incredibly immature and unprofessional, is it not?

I am not saying Stitt smells like roses, but my God man, your agenda of anti Stitt is getting so old.

 

[The_Real_Chief]

For the love of god stop acting like a bitter ex girlfriend people, he left, we had some good times with him as coach and now we will beat his ass(sorry for saying the A word Payton) and never speak of him again. He is a good coach but we will be justttt fine R-E-L-A-X people

 

[UMGriz75]

I am not saying Stitt smells like roses, but my God man, your agenda of anti Stitt is getting so old.

I started off with a good impression of Stitt. But, unlike you, evaluation is an ongoing process. I did not give up my brain in order to become a Griz fan. Your agenda is overt, mine is merely describing what I see.

What I see isn't good right now. Just because you have Stitt up your nose, don't underestimate what happened this week, which is different than last week's mudhole, which is different than the abyss of the week before.

And if you are going to make unattributed remarks about players' attitudes towards Gregorak, please don't be yet another source of "rumors" that support your agenda but then not be able to say "who." Note that when challenged on mine, I actually had the sources.