grizpsych said:
fencer24 said:
Please do tell, what is the evidence of collusion. And don't use the old "others say."
Don't use the Intel Community being unanimous about a hacking that they never had access to the server to determine who did it.
As far as the rest goes in your list, I agree that Hillary and Obama were doing all those things, but what is their relevance here?
Here is the publicly available evidence suggesting collusion between Trump camp and Russia.
https://www.reddit.com/r/TrumpInvestigation/wiki/doc
Of course, this is publicly available information. We will ahve to wait and see what happens with the special counsel and the IC investigations.
Oh My God!! You have Reddit! I bow to your sources. Of course they are incomplete, after all, they don't even list the number of times he had a Reuben sandwich, which we all know has Russian dressing! Why won't he answer that? Ha! Proof at last.
But perhaps I have been negligent in the use of my terms. When I say show me the evidence of collusion, I don't mean meetings or business dealings, but evidence that somehow the election was changed. Focusing on the trivia doesn't change the fact that votes were cast and counted, and Trump won the electoral college. There is not even a smidgen (to borrow from Obama) of evidence that even one vote was changed because of something the Russians did.
In fact the Trump haters seem to have morphed into Joe McCarthy overnight. Russians under the bed! "Are you now or have you ever had a salad with Russian dressing?" Even senior Dems have gone off the deep end with their assertions that Russia committed an act of war.
Do we really want to start throwing nukes around because Hillary lost and liberals' feelings are hurt? Sorry, that's way too extreme. Red Scare or not, Trump's opponents have moved from comical to dangerous.
Take a deep breath, relax, and realize you are overdoing what the Right did when Obama was elected, and looking all the more ridiculous for it. Even if somehow you were to impeach Trump, you still have Pence who moves into the Office. Are you really going to be better off?
Or are you going to continue to make such a ridiculous spectacle that you alienate every one else who doesn't have your level of Russophobia? If so, prepare to be further annoyed in 2020 when he is re-elected.